“Help. I’m stuck in the waiting game!”
Dear Ronnie Ann. I am from Taiwan and found your website by google. My background is engineering. And I focus my job hunting on those positions in the high-tech industry. Currently I am stuck in the waiting game after my 2nd interview. My situation is like this.
I went to the 2nd interview of a large high-tech company on April 17. And I wrote thank you note and follow-up letters after the interview to all the interviewers. But I did not hear anything from them over the past month. Therefore, I called HR last Monday for their decision.
She responded my job application is getting approval. But she does not know which candidate would be selected (It sounds weird). She assumed the approval process would be done by the end of last week and would give me call.
Until now, I still have not received her call. Is there still hope to get this job? I am very desperate for this job, cuz it is what I really want. Could you give me some opinions?
Thank many for your help.
VL
Taipei, Taiwan
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Internal processes after 2nd interview
Dear VL,
So glad you found my blog. Welcome. I love having guests from other parts of the world. I’ll try my best to help you.
Unfortunately, there’s no way for me to know for sure what they are thinking. But as of this moment, even though you are stuck in the waiting game, there is still hope. Sometimes, after a second interview, companies need to run your application through a variety of processes before they can even consider an offer. And those processes can take a long time.
It sounds like you are one of several candidates they are considering strongly. But she gave you no clue as to whether you’re the number one choice as of this moment. And she may not even know yet, since other opinions enter in as the process moves along.
You’ve already followed up politely. So all you can do right now is wait. And think positively. (It never hurts.) Even if you aren’t number one, there can be hope. The person who they offer it to may already have another job or may say no.
So many possibilities. But without a crystal ball, I can only tell you … there is still a chance. Even though it’s past the deadline she gave you. I’ve had that happen in my own career with good results.
I hope you do get this job. But just in case you don’t get an offer, take that positive energy and don’t give up until you get the job you want. We can never know what’s just around the corner that may even be better!
Good luck, VL. Please let us know what happens.
~ Ronnie Ann
About the author…
Ronnie Ann, founder of Work To the Wise and Work Coach Cafe, bases her real-world advice on her many years as an organizational consultant where she helped interview and hire people, added to a certificate from NYU in Career Planning & Development, as well as her many adventures as a serial job seeker.
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I recently applied for a position and within 24 hours I received a reply from the Office Manager asking me to come in for an interview by the end of the week. Two days later (Friday), I interviewed with the CEO. I thought it went okay, but not perfect. But to my surprise, I received an email two hours later asking me to come back for a second interview on Monday morning to meet with another woman who works in the same department. My second interview went great and I had another chance to briefly speak with the CEO again following my interview. I was told I’m the current “frontrunner” for the position, but they needed to finish up some other second interviews throughout the week & I would hear back from them (whether I got it or not) by Friday.
On Wednesday, I was asked for my list of references, so I assumed they were making calls. But, I never heard anything on Friday and my references have not yet been called. It is now Tuesday, 4 days after they said they would let me know about the job. According to the CEO, they planned on having this position begin on April 4th, which is next Monday, but the CEO is on vacation this week. What should I take from all of this? I emailed the Office Manager yesterday but have yet to receive a reply.
Thank you!
Step back. Take a deep breath. And chill! This sounds promising, so far, and you don’t want to blow it by being perceived as a pest.
From Friday to Tuesday is TWO days, not four, when you are counting “business days.” Let’s do that.
Let’s also assume that things are not going quite as they had planned — which happens VERY often in these situations! Perhaps someone else became the “frontrunner.” OR perhaps something else happened: some sort of important crisis developed, or someone didn’t do what they were supposed to do when they were supposed to do it (like call your references), or their schedule was unrealistic and didn’t allow enough time for the hiring process to be completed.
Stay in touch with your references (gently) to learn if they’ve been contacted. And continue your job search. You may get an offer for this job in a couple of weeks, and you may not. Wouldn’t it be nice to have two offers to choose from?
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Thanks for your words, Susan. I’ve been telling myself all those things, I guess I needed to hear them from someone else. I didn’t want to jinx it, which is why I didn’t tell anyone that I interviewed for the position, so now I can’t vent my frustration out to anyone else! Things are getting busy at my current job, so that might distract me for a while. I’ll hope for the best.
VERY good that you kept this interview a secret! I do understand about the frustration because you can’t vent, and the wait after a promising job interview is always tough, especially when they have been encouraging but then miss their own deadline. But, employers not getting back in touch when expected is VERY common.
I’ll keep my fingers crossed that this turns out well for you.
Good luck!
Susan
Really glad I found this thread! I was referred to a startup company in the Bay Area by a friend who works there, and I had a phone interview with the Director of Product Management last Friday. I felt good about the interview, since he seemed to be really happy with my questions as well as my answers to his questions. He said he was going to be traveling this week, but I could expect to hear from him by Tuesday, and he sounded pretty positive when he said the next steps would be to set up meetings with the CTO and a few other members of the team. It’s Thursday already, and I haven’t heard anything.
From what my friend told me, it is an urgent requirement and they are looking to fill the position as soon as possible. I’m losing my mind waiting to hear from them. Also instead of sending the usual thank you note, I connected with the Director on LinkedIn, thanking him in the note for taking the time to speak with me. Would you suggest that I wait a few more days before reaching out to him? I tried getting in touch with my friend, but seems like it’s quite busy at work from them, so I haven’t heard from him yet. HELP!!!
Do NOT contact the Director this week while he is traveling — WAIT to contact him again!
You have a great start, and a big advantage since you were referred by a current employee. Don’t blow this opportunity by coming across as an impatient nut.
The fact that the director accepted your LinkedIn connection request is a very good sign. Especially when traveling, things happen that get in the way of filling a job — like doing work and handling crises!
So, CHILL! Focus on doing something else! If you are unemployed, continuing to search for a new job is both a good use of your time and helpful in case this opportunity doesn’t come through for you. Or, if you are employed, focus on your existing job, wash your car, paint your bathroom, learn how to make something complex in the kitchen or on your computer. Do ANYTHING else that will distract you.
Sit tight and wait for the Director to get back to you.
IF he hasn’t gotten back to you by NEXT Thursday, ask your friend if she knows what is going on. It MIGHT be appropriate to reach out to him then.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to the party with this comment, but I just wanted to say a big thank you for all of your kind advice. I too am in the waiting game after a second interview and it’s hard not to get anxious over the lack of contact. Reading everyone else’s experiences really helped.
I had a second interview for a great job last week and was called by the HR rep the day after the interview to say that they would be contacting my references. She said they would contact everyone by Monday at the latest and I would know the status of my application by mid-week. Well, it’s Thursday now and I’ve heard from my references that nobody has reached out. I know that’s only 3 days past their deadline, but it’s hard not to let a little doubt creep in. It seems strange that they would go out of their way to call me and tell me that they’d speak to my references if they didn’t intend to? Or perhaps I’m the second choice candidate and they’ve already spoken to their first choice’s references.
Anyway, I was feeling a bit gloomy about all of this and this thread did help. It’s good to hear that others got offers when they too were feeling unsure and it’s inspired me to keep moving forward.
Thanks again.
Hi cflk,
Thank you! This sounds very promising, even with the delay in meeting their schedule.
Many things can happen to temporarily upset the scheduled hiring process, and employers are often not good about communicating or explaining what is happening. So, you are smart not to give up on this opportunity!
However, sometimes the process is derailed permanently for any of a thousand different reasons, often having more to do with the organization than the job seeker. I’ve seen recruiting industry estimates that 50% of jobs posted end up being cancelled to be replaced by better descriptions or permanently eliminated due to organizational or budget changes.
So, while you shouldn’t give up on this opportunity, don’t suspend your job search waiting for this opportunity to move forward. Keep looking!
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
I had phone interview with a recruiter of a large company. After that interview he seemed to think I was a great fit. Two days later I received a call from the next level and did another phone interview. After that interview he seemed very interested and actually said he wanted this position filled ASAP. A day later I got a call to fly to headquarters on their dime for a third interview. I felt the interview went well after speaking to four individuals for 4 hours. They did discuss salary and benefits for the position and had me fill out a paper application as well as a background check consent. Prior to leaving they asked if I had any questions and I asked a few. Their final comments is we are doing interviews and I will hear back from them.
Its been over a week since that face to face and was curious if I was still in the running considering how fast they moved at first. I sent a follow up email immediately afterwards an no response.
Its ben awhile since I’ve changed companies and I know protocol has changed so maybe I’m over reacting.
Hi Ash,
Be patient. The protocol varies by company, industry, location, and company culture as well as how prosperous they are.
MANY things can happen between the time you interview for a job, receive assurances that you will be hired, and actually get a written job offer (for the job you want, at the location and salary you expect). They flew you in for an interview, so they have invested money in you already, which I doubt they do for many candidates.
If they asked for the names of people who would provide references for you, check with those people to see if they’ve been called.
You may not be the only “finalist” for the position, so there may be other interviews happening. Then background checks, etc. need time. Perhaps someone else has received an offer for the job, but needs time to think it over. Or, perhaps someone necessary in the decision-making process is not available, yet.
If you haven’t heard 10+ business days after the interview, call the HR person to “check in.” Remind them of who you are, the job you are being considered for, the date of your on-site interviews, and the names of the people who interviewed you. Ask if a decision has been made, and, if one hasn’t been made, when to expect it.
Don’t give up on this opportunity, but keep looking for a new job if you haven’t found one yet. This may not happen, and you don’t want to waste time.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Been down this road so many times. I have a job now but if I may be honest here, I kind of hate it. It’s a family business that believes in illusion. They do fairly well financially but they are poorly managed mostly because everyone who works there has a job as a result of nepotism. There are a few of us who got there on our merits and we are the ones that suffer. So I continue to put myself out there to get the kind of job I strive for. I only took this job because I was desperate but never did I think this was where I wanted to park myself indefinitely.
I have been there over a year and continue to interview for the really good jobs which I feel I’m qualified for. Some pay into the six figures, some less but are at least in an environment that excites me. I have been looking on and off for a job (mostly on) for about 4 years and have interviewed for somewhere around a hundred jobs. Two years ago I interviewed at a marketing agency in San Francisco. I interviewed first with a VP via telephone, then I came in and met with a Director and Manager, then I came back and interviewed with a GM and about 5 other people. I gave them references, filled out the job app and then…crickets. I emailed my contact who eventually got back and told me that the hiring budget for that position was reallocated to San Diego. Why then did I continue to see the job ad appearing on a number of sites?
Then last year I had another job that didn’t pay that much but it was a dream job for me marketing a film festival. I interviewed twice, the second was with the cofounder who actually hugged me and told me she was excited about the prospect of working with me. I thought for sure, this is it! I really felt in my gut, that this job was mine. They were supposed to reach out to candidates by the end of week. End of week comes…crickets. A week later, I get some static rejection letter. I tried to connect with the cofounder on LinkedIn and my request was rejected. Wow. Some people, I tell you. Was that hug really necessary?
And now, I’m back here after interviewing for a position that is ideal for me on a number of levels. Definitely a step up from where I’m at. I really felt a connection with the two hiring managers who interviewed me. One even made a comment about an artist who I posted about on my Facebook page. Apparently, he shares my opinion of her. I sent out thank you letters. One of the hiring managers actually responded. I thought if they liked me right away, then why didn’t they just make me an offer? I told them I wanted to give two weeks notice at my current job. But noooo…. I have to wait. HR said a week. One of the hiring manager said two weeks.
I’m dying here. I feel nauseous constantly. I fluctuate between feeling it’s in the bag and feeling it’s another major disappointment as the face of the film festival’s hugging cofounder haunts my dreams..
This is grueling. I”m so tired of this.
Just needed to vent and yes the superstitious part of me hopes that maybe I, too, will catch some of that magic pixie dust which as myth has it lives in these here parts….
Hi,
I have taken up an interview with an MNC. Done with 2nd round with Director, waiting for the response.
after 3 days of my interview, I called HR and they responded that they would call me for another round, but now it is 10 days I haven’t got any call from them. they took 10 days to come back after my 1st round interview. Please advise. Thank you.
Hi there!
Here’s my story…
I found a job that I believe to be a perfect fit. I contacted a former supervisor who is an executive at the company and she called the Hiring Manager directly and forwarded my resume to him.
I received an email a few days later from the HR Asst. and they asked that I formally apply on their website and to forward available dates for phone interviews…I did both.
After the phone interview with the lead HR person, she said the next steps would be receiving a phone call to schedule a face-to-face if they were interested.
The following day I received an email from the HR Assist. who seemed to have had her dates confused, and said that she needed to schedule a face-to-face for today or tomorrow Friday. Meanwhile, she sent this email to me AFTER office hours and Friday was the next day. I was confused and let her know that I was unavailable (which I was) because I was told I’d get a phone call, if I were to move on AND I was out of state. She apologized to me the next day in an email and she talked to the hiring manager and we were able to reschedule a face-to-face for the following week.
Once there, I interviewed with the HR Assist. I thought that went really well. And then I interviewed with the hiring manager. I thought that went well too. He threw me off with the last question and I tried to answer as best I could but felt that I didn’t tie up the answer as well as I could have, and he abruptly ended the interview with “OK thanks for coming”. I was taken aback because it was a really smooth interview until the last question and the abrupt end.
This interview took place right before the Christmas Holiday and then their offices were closed for 2 weeks, reopened on the 6th of January. I gave it 2 weeks and I’m ready to send an email to the HR Assist. I updated my former boss (who by the way the hiring manager mentioned that he holds in very high regard and respects her) and she said she’ll contact him on Monday.
I was really excited about this position. In general, I felt really positive/good about the interview process. But why they haven’t reached out to me to let me know if I got the job or not, via email or phone, is very disappointing and has made me anxious.
Can you give advice as to how to phrase my email tomorrow to inquire about the status, my HIGH interest in the position? I’m thinking of contacting just the HR Assist.
Thanks much,
Stuck after second interview!
Here is how it went – i was notified that my application was considered after 10 days of application. A week later i got a call from HR manager saying that he wants to check my availability and desire to join them if i am offered an alternative job offer, which i said i need to know all the details. And he said he will get back to me in 2 days time. To my surprise i got another call from Department Head that i have applied for, he went on interviewing me for about 30 minutes for the original job that was advertised and introduced his 2nd man in charge (conference call) and after answering question for about another 30 minutes, he asked me about earliest day that i am able to join. When i say i am ready join now, he said that he will have HR call me again in 2 days time. TWO days passed! no response. Should i wait for a few more days or call HR to see the delay? This company is one of the world’s leading company in hospitality sector.
I am stuck in a similar situation 🙁
Had my phone interview a month ago for my dream company in technology domain..though it wasnt that great, i got selected for an onsite interview.. 🙂 was on cloud 9 then..
After my onsite im still waiting to hear back from my recruiter. Almost a week now. send follow up, thanks mail and everything..no response from anyone.. :'(
what to do am sooo depressed..cant forget about this at all..
Hi Tisha,
Don’t be depressed! One week after your second interview isn’t a long wait — seriously!
Excellent that you sent the thank you notes already. But, even if they told you that they’d be in touch “right away,” things happen that mess up schedules. People get sick, emergencies happen, etc. So, not hearing in less than a week is completely normal.
Wait AT LEAST one week after the interview before contacting them! Then, call (not email) the HR person or the recruiter to ask the status of the job. Be polite and friendly, not depressed or angry. Just checking the status since it has been over a week (right!) since the interview. When do they think a decision will be made? Who should you stay in touch with, and is it OK to call after the decision deadline is passed. Assuming it’s OK to call, ask who you should stay in touch with.
MEANWHILE, keep looking for a new job. Just because you want this one so much doesn’t mean it will happen for you, unfortunately. So, unless you have a job or are independently wealthy, keep looking until you get a good job offer (in writing).
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Hi there and thank you for this supportive blog~
I had a second interview for a 4th grade teaching position last Wednesday 7/23. I am a first-year teacher. The principal and assistant principal asked me district level questions which were a bit more difficult than those in my first interview. Before leaving, the principal said that they are interested in me and that I should not sign any other contracts. They were just waiting on two of my references. It is now 7/31 and I have not heard from them again. I sent a thank you email immediately following the second interview and included two more references. Finally, the assistant principal sent an email that read they were finishing up the interview process and that they would get back to me. I guess one week is not very long to wait for a response, it’s just that school starts next week and I was hoping to hear good news before then. Should I assume they are interviewing others or waiting to hear from my references? I did send an email yesterday with a polite follow-up message, but again no response. Don’t mean to sound whiny, I am just so excited to get started teaching! Thank you so much! Julie
It’s hard to tell what’s going on, but I would think that you should hear from them soon since school starts next week. Check with your references. Have they been contacted?
I would definitely call them tomorrow to find out what is going on, if you haven’t heard from them by then.
Keep looking for a job until you have a job offer in your hand!
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Thank you Susan,
They called back today and have decided to hire an experienced teacher. They said that they are impressed by my enthusiasm and willingness to do what it takes and they will keep me in mind for other positions.
Thank you so much for your words of encouragement!
Julie
Hi Julie,
Very sorry to hear that you didn’t get the job, particularly after they told you not to sign with someone else!
IF you still think you want to work for that school, send them a thank you note for letting you know the outcome, and telling them you’d like them to keep you in mind for the next job opening. Here’s a link to my article on how to do that – http://www.job-hunt.org/onlinejobsearchguide/article_rejection-into-opportunity.shtml
But do NOT send that thank you unless you really do want to work there.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Hello,
About two months ago, my girlfriend helped me apply to a research assistant position in one of the prestigious university in Singapore. Lucky enough, I got a replied from the person-in-charge (principle investigator) that she had referred me to another person who is doing the hiring. Fair enough, I got a reply from her immediately on the same day that she would like to interview me (via skype, as I requested, I was working at that time). I was doing great in the interview, and the interviewer did really interested on my past job experiences. Soon enough, I got her reply that she would required me to fly in Singapore for a second round of interview as the Principle Investigator would like to interview me. Due to her tight schedule, we managed to talk / discuss in less than 30minutes. Then, I got a feedback immediately that she (Principle investigator) would wanna request the testimonials from my previous employers. Here’s my problem. I was doing great in my first job (it was a QA job) and I stayed there for at least 18 months before I quit. For the reason I quit was I wanna venture into research (it is my passion), so I joined one of the universities at my neighborhood. Everything seemed to be just fine until my supervisor started to take things for granted, brush away my ambition as a researcher, and pushing me to do administrative works instead of labworks. She had promised me a lot of things prior to my joining, but never been fulfilled. So, I had a rough time with her and finally I quit the job and having a bad term with my supervisor. Then, I landed on a job as a bioprocess engineer in one of the small company in Malaysia. Similarly, the managing director (also the interviewer) has bragged a lot of things regarding his company prior to my joining. Once I have signed the offer letter, I found out that I have been cheated. Most of the things that he had brag about are still in discussion state. Meaning that he has giving me a false impression. Based on my colleague review, I found out that there is not much manufacturing process going on in the company (basically it is idling). I joined the company for 1 month and decided to quit.
So, back to the original of my story, my potential employer is asking me for a testimonial from each company which I have worked for. The first company was alright, since I have made great impression and was working hard. They have agreed to give a verbal testimonial of me. But, I have problem on the second job I landed on, I even pull myself together and request a testimonial from my supervisor, whom I had bad term with, but as I expected, she rejected me. While the third job, I did not leave the job in bad term. I tried to contact the managing director, and he was avoiding me, not replying my emails, SMS-es and even not answering the phone call.
Since, I could not wait any longer, I submitted the email with contact numbers and email addresses of the referees (1st job), I have told my potential employer that my supervisor (2nd job) has declined to testify, instead, I did send in a written testimonial from a colleague of mine. And I am truthful enough to tell my potential employer that my managing director (3rd job) was not able to be reached.
I have sent in the email on last Thursday evening. And yet they have not got it back to me yet. Should I send an email to follow up with them today or should I give them a week? I am really hopeful to get this job. Do you think I stand a chance in getting it?
Thank you
It’s difficult for me to determine what your chances are since cultures can be so different – and very important.
My best guess is that you should give them at least a week before contacting them again. While you wait for the time to pass, see if some of your other colleagues (and former colleagues) can write testimonials for you that you could send to this employer and keep in case you need them for future employers.
Or, perhaps better in this situation, see if any of those colleagues would be able and willing to interact directly with this employer. If they are willing – and would say good things about you – get their permission to provide their contact information to this prospective employer. When you have their support and approval, send that contact information to the prospective employer.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Hey Ronnie Ann
My name is Daniel i am a soon to be lawyer from Ecuador. Recently i applied for an internship at a big NGO in DC. I had my two interviews and they seemed to be quiet interested in my profile.
However they told me that by the end of this week I will have a response, nevertheless I dont know If I should do a follow up because I dont want to seem really desperate and annoying to the people interested. Additionally they sent me a writing assessment that I sent in late due to difficulties with my email. I do not know if that will be a really deciding factor, however when I emailed them with the late assessment they told me it was fine and that they will speak to me soon.
Should I write to them or wait until friday for their decision?
Thank you very much
D
Hello,
I moved from a STABLE career in a different state 2 1/2 years ago to be with my husband. Although I love living here, I’m so close to giving up looking for a permanent job or even a response after an interview that I can taste it. I’ve been temping for just about as long as I’ve been here and been on at least a dozen interviews. I’ve thought I’ve done an outstanding interview a few times and nothing. I am currently waiting AGAIN as I interviewed a month ago. The employer is filling 4 positions for the same job with 11 candidates. What could be wrong? Please help before I crawl up underneath a rock and never come out again.
Hi TClement6,
Stay away from that rock! Chances are very good that there’s nothing at all wrong with you – just the way things are going for most job seekers right now. There’s a great deal of competition for most jobs, and people are not hired for a very wide variety of reasons from timing to “chemistry.”
You’ve been keeping busy temping which means no big unexplained gaps on your resume and you are keeping your skills up-to-date. Excellent! Have you updated your LinkedIn Profile with the aspects of that work that applies to your target job?
Networking IS the best way to get a job, and avoid the competition. With your temping, hopefully you know more people that you did when you first moved there. Maybe one of those former employers has a job open, and someone you worked with/for at that employer could refer you (perhaps being rewarded with $$$ for the referral?). If it’s been a while since you worked there, chances are they wouldn’t owe the temp agency any referral fee.
Look for a local job club for help, inspiration, and a bigger local network.
Keep looking! You WILL land a job!
Susan
About two months ago, I applied for a position that I REALLY would love to have and think I would be perfectly suited for. I then had a phone interview and subsequently was brought into the office about a month and a half ago for an interview with my two potential bosses. At the time, I was told that they would be making their decision within the next two weeks. When two weeks came and went, I sent a follow up email, and got the standard ‘thanks for following up’ reply. After an additional two weeks (two days ago) I sent another polite follow up email and haven’t heard back. I’m thinking that by now the chances that I’ve got the job are slim to none, but the days and weeks of waiting have been ratcheting up my anxiety.
Part of me wonders why they couldn’t just tell me I didn’t get the job after my last follow up message, instead of hanging me out to dry. The more rational part of me knows that the job hiring process can take a long time, and the hopelessly optimistic part of me says that if I haven’t been told I don’t have the job yet, I may actually still be in the running.
Now because I’ve read a lot of job hunting sites and blogs and gotten some great advice, I wasn’t foolish enough to rest on my laurels these past two months. I’ve been sending out several resumes a day, which has resulted in three other job interviews that unfortunately didn’t pan out. What really gets me down sometimes is the feeling of helplessness that goes along with the whole process: after I’ve sent out my resume and sent my follow up emails a few days after, it’s entirely out of my hands and it’s not a pleasant feeling at all – either I’ll get a response to my follow up email, or I won’t. It’s the same thing with an interview: after I’ve had the meeting and sent my thank you notes, it feels like my fate’s entirely in the hands of other people.
Because I absolutely detest sitting around and waiting, you can imagine how this whole process has been wreaking havoc on my nerves. One thing that helps is that I’m always looking for jobs to apply to, which is an action that keeps my mind off all all the worrying. But after several months of sending out resume after resume, I feel like I’m beginning to get worn down. But it’s always comforting to read other people’s stories on sites like this and to know that at least I’m not alone, and that eventually I’ll land the job. I look forward to the day when my job search will finally be over and I land a job!
Hi James,
You are definitely not alone! This is a very tough process. It sounds like you are doing all of the right things. My recommendation to you is to find a job club or job search support group. The often meet once a week in your local public library or one of your local places of worship (usually without any religious affiliation). Also, check with your local Career OneStop Center to see if they can help you find a local group.
What the these job clubs do is:
1.) Show you that you aren’t the only intelligent and competent person who is struggling with the current job market.
2.) Expand your network and knowledge – members usually share news and leads. Maybe one employer didn’t work out for you, but might work out for someone else. Or, a neighbor works at a company that has an opening that would be great for someone else in the group.
3.) Get feedback on your documents and process. We all have a terrible time proof-reading our own work, but typos are opportunity killers. Having a few other sets of eyes looking at your documents can help you.
4.) Learn some new ideas – perhaps another member of the group has a great way to write a cover letter or has found a great resource on the web, etc.
I look forward to the day your search is over, too. Please let us know when (and how) you land your new job.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Hello, I recently applied for a medical assistant position with a very large company.I was given a interview that went well, I also sent a thank you email for my interview four days later I received a call asking if I could come in as soon as possible to meet the new doctor. I did and was there in least then 1 hour The office manger informed me of a new position that was approved to fill (better then the orignal position)We talked,laughed,discuss hrs/wage and went over some of the job requirements as well as letting me know that the PA is still waiting on some forms to be approved for himself so he can start as well.Then I was introduced to the physician that is over the PA that I interviewed with, Then their office manger told me they will check my references/background (HR department)and call me which was 8 days ago including the weekend. Does this sound like a reason to be optimistic? How long should I wait before I get call from them? #nerveswreck
Hi Michelle,
It sounds promising, but until you hold a job offer in your hands, it’s not your job yet.
I’d wait until 2 weeks had passed, and then get back in touch. Simply ask what is going on, and when they think that a decision will be made.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Get this…..I had a phone interview with the hiring manager on Sept. 5th. He was so impressed that he invited me to a 2nd face-to-face interview on Sept. 19th. At first, he did not seem to take me serious because I was woman applying for a male dominant field. I really impressed him when I gave him a 30, 60, 90 day business plan for the position. We spent 2 hours of non-stop talking and getting to know each other. Towards the end he started going over benefits, company culture, and then asked me what were my salary expectations. He told me it was very delightful for speak with and that he would be in touch. I walked away thinking even though he was impressed I still think he had a problem with me being a woman. I didn’t hear anything from him in almost 2-1/2 weeks until he called to say he wanted to schedule me for an interview with his Director on Oct. 15th. I met with the Director for an hour talking about the position and my experiences. I felt the hiring manager prepared the Director about me because the director was so opened and relaxed. It was if I was there to get his stamp of approval. A week went by so I sent the hiring manager an email on Oct 23rd to let him know that I was still interested in the position and my interview with the director went very well. On Oct 24th he responded to my email thanking me for my patience. He said they were in the process of on-boarding a new HR Manager but in the meantime they were having to send all HR documentation to a sister-company. He said hopefully he would have some final details upon his return from a trip to their corporate office. It is now Nov 14th and I still have not heard anything from him. I am continuing to interview but I am concern that I may get another offer while I’m waiting for a response back. Do you think the hold up is with HR at their sister-company? If so, what do you think is going on behind the scene?
Hi Kim,
Well it sounds very promising, and continuing your job search is definitely the right thing for you to be doing!
The problem could simply be corporate “administrivia” on their end. The larger the organization, the more processes and procedures to go through to make sure that everything is being done in accordance with policy and the right organizations are involved and have bought off on the new hire. All of that can take a great deal of time, particularly if someone important to the process is on vacation, business travel, dealing with a crisis, etc.
You haven’t mentioned providing references and having had those checked, which is a little odd, but not unheard of. And, it doesn’t sound like you have done much discussion of salary and other details that can be very important decision points for you. But, that may be coming next or may be delayed by the lack of a current, local HR manager.
Or, you could be right about their discomfort with working with a woman.
If you receive an offer from another employer, that gives you the perfect opportunity to get back in touch with this employer and let them know you might not be available if they don’t send you an official offer.
I think this will turn out fine for you, but keep the process going with other employers until this one comes through (or doesn’t).
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Thank you Susan for responding so quickly. The hiring manager had me to fill out an Application for Employment which had all my information, employment & salary history and references. He took it during my face-to-face interview with him. One of things I was concerned about was my salary history was very high for the position. I asked him if I was in the range of what the position pays and he said he didn’t know. So I figured I was way above what they were willing to pay. But, I thought since I met with the director they were probably willing to negotiate half-way. That may be another reason for the delay because the position itself did not require a college degree and now it does. So, I am still hopefully that part of their delay is maybe having to rewrite the job description to justify the pay. But I don’t know. Just hopeful thinking. I will let you know if it worked out. It’s a great opportunity.
Thanks for the update, Kim. Sounds like things are progressing as well as they can, and, without having a spy on the inside to tell you what’s going on, it’s hard to know exactly what’s happening.
So, keep up your job hunting, and I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
I just had my 2nd interview yesterday. I thought it went well. They told me they had one more 2nd interview next week, then they’d make their decision. After I send my Thank You notes, I am going to completely forget about it for at least a week. Whatever is meant to be, shall be. In the meantime, I will be sending my resume to other opportunities. So instead of worrying, I suggest keep sending your resume, you never know, something better might come up. Wait for no one, continue with your job search and dont get so set on that one job. I wasnt sure about my 1st interview, didnt even send a thank you note, and got the 2nd interview. So… You wont know until you have that offer. Continue on with life, keep moving along in your job search. Keep going with the positive energy and something will definately workout. Look at the interviews as a learning experience, when you leave, take notes of the questions they ask. This way, if you dont get that job, you’ll be so much better prepared for next interview.
Great advice, Dawn!
As the old saying goes, “it ain’t over ’til it’s over” and it’s not over until you have accepted a written job offer. Until you are holding that job offer in your hand, the smartest thing for you to do is to continue your job search.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
I wrote some time ago about my situation…and now I really have some doubts!
After a 2nd interview which went well I send a follow up email and they replayed that I was an excellent candidate and they would offer me a job once they were in position to do so. They mentioned mid to late September as a time frame for finishing important process. These are great news but… Should I follow up with them again since almost a month past? I know they are probably busy but I have some other job offer, although I prefer this job to that one recently offered to me.
I would appreciate your opinions
Elen
Hi Elen,
Well, it sounds like this employer may not be able to move quickly enough for you. If you haven’t accepted the other job offer, if you haven’t heard from them, this week or early next week would be a good time to reach out to them to see what is going on with this job.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
I have a question. I moved from one state to another.I had a interview in July of this year and then three weeks later the next month I was called for a second interview. The first interview was going well however at the end of the interview the interviewer said to me I bet you are hoping to get hired here. I thought that was not a good sign. At the second interview it was a different person. That person started out with explaining health benefits however in the middle of the interview she said some employers don’t want to hire out of towner’s because they think the out of towner’s are going to move back. I did not know what to think. So I left both interviews confused. At first I thought yes good signs then these two things were said and I don’t know why. This is the second week and I have not heard anything from the interviewer should I email the interviewer to find out the decision.
Dear Mindy,
I read about your situation…
Athought I have not much experience and I am in the similar situation I could say what I think -why not? I would write them and I’d ask them about the updates ! In my opinion that could not have negative effects…
I wrote 5 days after they’d said they’d made the decision. and it went ok. Do not send more than one mail even if they do not answer, but one follow up email shows that you are still available and interested in that position.
Hope this could be useful
Good luck!
Hi Mindy,
It sounds like the first interview went fine – I hope you said that you were hoping to work there. It sounds like the person in the second interview was either looking for reassurance that you were interested in moving and looking forward to the new location. Or, possibly, warning you that being an out-of-towner could be a problem.
I hope you sent thank you notes to both people.
If this doesn’t work out for you, don’t lose confidence. The job interview process is quirky because, usually, none of the people involved are very good at it – including the interviewers.
Keep looking!
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Hi,
I am in a similar situation as everyone else. I went for an interview last week with a healthcare company and it went amazing. The HR director said that she would be contacting me on Wednesday of last week after her other interviews to set up my second interview. The HR director kept her word and indeed contacted me for a second interview with the Doctor whom I would be working closely with and the Chief administrator and also said she would begin my background check. The next week, I had my second interview with with them both which was two days ago, on Wednesday. After the interview the Chief Administrator said that they would be in contact with me. I have never interviewed for a position without getting the job on the spot so Im not sure how the process goes after the second interview…how long does it usually take for the employer to contact you? If you arent offered the job, do they notify you anyway or never contact you? Its only been two days since my second interview and already im super anxious…Should I give up hope?
Hi Alicia,
It can take several weeks to hear from the employer. Hopefully, by now they have been in contact with you.
In the future, at the end of an the second interview, ask them about how many finalists they have, and when they expect to make a decision. Then add another week (or more) to the the decision date they tell you because many things can get in the way of making a quick decision – and the vast majority of those things that get in the way have nothing to do with you.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Hello,
I would like to know opinion on my situation- a month ago I had the first interview with somebody from a big Canadian company that is planning to open an office in my country. The interview went well, we were talking about many things and at the end of the interview he told me I had experience and educational background for that job and he considered me as a great candidate. He told me also that somebody else would come to check if selected candidates were the best fit for the company in their opinion.
After 2 weeks I sent a follow up email and I didn’t get a response. More than a month past and I got an email – they called me for a 2d round interview. I talked with another person. The interview went well – he asked me more about the job and my previous technical experience checking my knowledge in that area. I forgot to mention that I could be maybe one of 2 persons who did the same job and applied for this one, although that company I worked in is not in a good relationship with this Canadian. At the end of the 2nd interview the interviewer told me they could see me in that offered position because of my knowledge and education and my communication skills. he was smiling and it seemed we were both relaxed during the interview Give me 2-3 weeks to end up the whole process – interviewer told me. He was really pleased I made a research and I came prepared for the interview and he repeated it a couple of times. As I understood they were planning to hire more people making a whole team.
Now I am waiting. The only contact I have is that email I got from them since they haven’t opened the office in my country yet. I sent a thank you letter responding the invitation to the 2nd interview. The only thing I didn’t like is the time frame-is 3 weeks too much for a decision? and what to do if I do not get an answer within that 3 weeks? to send a follow up email to them using the same mail I got the invitation for the interview?
I am highly interested in that position and I would really love if I got this job. What do you think about my chances ?
Thank you for your time and looking forward!
Elen
Hello there!
I have read the previous comments and they seem to be helpful. But, I would love to know you opinion on my situation. I had an interview that took almost 2 hours with the Head of Design of the company a little over two weeks ago, received great feedback and right away gave me a project to do on-the-spot. (where normally, they would send the candidate home to work on the project and present it at the 2nd interview) I received great feedback with the project and was asked to come for a second interview – a tour of the new design building office – the next day (which was informal). The Interviewer made the time in his busy schedule to see me the next day just to take me on a quick tour of the new design building and he has stated that I’m the first person that get to see the new office location – which I thought was a very good sign ? He said I am very qualified and if it was up to him, he would def hire me. But, he needs to run my resume to the owner/boss of the company first that night and will contact me within a couple of days after interviewing more people. Note that, he also asked me when can I start. I have sent him a Thank You/Follow up letter within 48 hours after the 2nd interview. I have NOT heard from him that weekend. After little over a week (Friday), I decided to give him a follow-up/status update call, he immediately picked up and sounded super busy and he apologized for not following up nor reading his emails as he just got back in town and was very busy. I have been told that he will then respond to my email by Monday. – which I thought was also a good sign since he did answer the call right away and made the time in his busy schedule and I have not received any messages that I did NOT get the position. I have NOT received any calls or emails since the last time we spoke on the phone.
Now, it has been a little over two weeks since the initial interview. I am still patiently waiting for a response this week. The position is still available which gives me faith that I still have a chance to get the offer. I plan to giving him a call back within 48 hours just to follow up on the status of my interview and If I am still being considered. Any recommendations on what I should do? Should I also send an email to the recruiter or directly to the person who interviewed me (who I’ve been talking to the whole time) ? or should I just stick to my initial plan of a call follow-up? Should I give up on waiting?
Any opinions and recommendations would help. Thank you for your time and looking forward!
-V
Hi Vanessa,
Two things stand out to me from your narrative: (1) this fellow is not the sole decision maker on the situation and (2) he sounds extremely busy, with travel, etc.
It does sound like you have a strong advocate in this fellow, but he needs to convince someone else (maybe several someones) that you are the person to hire. I would expect that those others would need a chance to speak with you before you receive an offer.
I would stay in touch with the recruiter most frequently – they will have some idea of what is going on, hopefully a good idea. Then, every week or two, reach out to this manager to see what is going on. It sounds to me like you need to be careful not to be a nuisance while still reminding him of your presence and interest – a tight wire walk.
Keep job hunting! Don’t wait for this one to happen.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Hi… I would like to ask if what do you think would be the status of my job application. I received a call from the HR staff for an interview after the 8th business days of my online application… I think it did very well.. The HR staff told me that she will just informed me for my next interview after the thorough review of my resume/application…After 2 business days I had a call from the HR staff for my next interview to the department manager… I think it also did very well… After my interview with the manager he told me to wait for a while to have another interview to their vice president… I waited for about 20 minutes because the VP has an ongoing meeting… because he think I will be waiting for too long he just informed me that he will just get back to me… and now is the 9th business days of waiting… Do I need to follow up the HR staff about what the manager told me? or I’ll just leave it behind and just wait for their call…
I remembered, the HR staff just informed that I will be having a 1 interview…but then I was surprised that the manager told me that there will be another interview…
hi i was browsing for answers to my current situation and i came across this site i went for job interview last week monday it seemed to have gone well the lady who conducted the interview told me she would get back to me in two days to let me know i waited till thursday and got no call back so i called the HR department who told me they would get someone to call me back same day but i never got a call back so i waited till monday and i tried to call the lady who took the interview i was told that she was not at her desk and had just stepped out for a couple of minutes and she would call me back as soon as she gets in i waited the whole day and never got a call back i am not sure what to do now i dont want to do now this is my second attempt in getting into this company i tried 3 years ago and the called me back the next day to tell me i did not get through 3 years on and i am trying again but this time no one is calling me back what should i do
Hi Rutsky,
Things could be going better this time than 3 years ago, or it could be simply that the woman you spoke with does not close the loop. My guess is that she doesn’t have an answer for you yet, so she isn’t responding.
If you know someone who works for this employer, ask them to see if they can find out what is going on with this job.
Call on a weekly basis until you get an answer, and keep looking for a job elsewhere. Don’t wait for this one to come through for you.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Dear Work Coach
I am browsing and finally ended in your site. And I found it really helpful especially during this time for me. I just finished my job interview from Dubai, and when my prospect employer ask me if I have any questions for him, I responded Yes, and I ask him If I got the job, when will it possible for me to come? he said the Hotel will be opening by September and we want you by August 4. And then he even told me that he will send me the site for our accommodation so I could see it for myself.. Now I’m totally confuse If I got the job or not? He even said that he will still do some local interviews there but he will think of me in a day or two and will definitely hear from him…. I’m totally in agony… but I did send him a Thank you email, thanking him for the opportunity and says that I’m enthusiastic with my profession and would see that I had the opportunity to expand my knowledge and experience with the support of the company’s trainings. – Thank you Work Coach.. – Lileth
Hi Lileth,
I’m sorry to say that I am unfamiliar with the etiquette and employer practices in Dubai.
However, my guess is that you do not yet have the job, but are high on the list of candidates. So stay in touch, carefully and not too often, to see waht happens.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Hi,
I first discovered your blog back in 2008 after interviewing for my “dream job.” Well, I found your site and advice to be very helpful. Shortly after, I received a call back with a job offer. A few years later, I was back in the waiting game after interviewing for my “dream” “dream job.” And while that didn’t pan out, I didn’t quit and again was offered a similar position at a comparable organization. So here I am again.. I just finished a final interview at an ideal location — and really this time — THE dream job. And again, I have yet to hear back. It’s hard to tell how the interview went. I know I missed some key points, but other portions of the interview — involving passion and commitment for the job — I know I aced. The main interviewer and I delved off topic for a bit, but there was a connection that makes me think I would be a great fit for the office and organization. However, I can’t help but think how I majorly messed up the practical portion.
I want to send thank you cards but am not sure how to address the mistakes I made without highlighting them. Any advice would help… and some pixie dust, please =)
Thanks,
Tara
Hi Tara,
Yes, it is definitely possible to fill in those places where you feel your answer was inadequate in your follow up thank you note, and it is probably a good idea if you are concerned now.
Don’t say that your answer in the interview was inadequate. Introduce the subject by writing something like, “Upon further consideration, I would like to add that…” or “In addition, let me clarify my comments about…”
Hope that qualified as “pixie dust” 🙂
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Dear Work Coach,
I follow your blog for a while now and I think you have a great knowledge about hiring processes.
I would like to hear your opinion about my situation:
On February 19th, 2013 I had first in-person interview at a large financial company. It went really well because they contacted me two days later in order to schedule an interview with CFO. On February 25th, 2013 I had that second interview. It is really hard to say if it went good or not. It was going to take about 25 minutes and we were talking about 45 minutes. I think the CFO liked me, he even said that I remind him of himself because I have similar approach to accounting (I know ..that doesn’t mean I will get that job 🙂 ). At the very beginning of the second interview, both people HR and CFO told me that I am the first candidate and they will have to interview more people which will take approx 2 weeks from which they will choose 2 top candidates for the 3rd interview. Of course after each interview I sent thank you emails to each person, and I received thank you email from CFO.
After three weeks I did not have any news so I decided nicely remind them about myself by sending follow up email (short one to HR on March 8th) and again expressed my interest. I received response from HR that they are still in the interview process and that they should know more at the end of the following week (March 15th). Now, it has been almost 3 weeks after that follow up and I did not receive any news. Do you think I can still have a chance or not? Please tell me your opinion.
Of course I am looking for another opportunities but that is my DREAM job 🙂
Thank You,
Anna
Hi Anna,
It sounds like you are doing all the right things at the right times, and it sounds like this is going well for you.
Since tomorrow will be 3 weeks since your last contact, it is appropriate for you to reach out again to see what is happening. Many things can de-rail schedules, but it’s good to let them know that you are still interested and available.
Excellent that you are looking for other opportunities. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you on this one. Stay in touch.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Hi work coach cafe,
I live in Australia. My situation is this. I was approached by a customer at my current workplace a couple of months ago about a potential job offer. This customer approached me again a couple of weeks ago with a business card. I am a retail manager and the position is for a well known car dealership franchise. I had my first interview on a Friday and immediately I was phoned after to schedule a second interview with a different manager for the Monday (which was last Monday) at my second interview it was said to me that the first interviewer wanted me for the job and that they would have a meeting and if I was successful they would need to have a meeting with the board
(Owners) at the end of the interview I was told they would definately be in touch with me soon. He was also quite laid back, so I don’t take this as bad. I didn’t send follow up notes because I had never heard of doing so. It has now been a week since my second interview and I still haven’t heard anything. I am wondering if I should give a follow up phone call or not? And if so would I phone the first interviewer ( the one that wants me for the position) or the second interviewer
( the laid back one) and if so, how long till I should call?? Any insight would be great.
Thank you,
Natalie
Hi Natalie,
Since this is a sales job, you could treat this as an opportunity to show them your selling skills and act as you would if they were prospects considering making a purchase. It’s probably not too late to send follow up notes, reiterating your interest.
This might be a test, or it could be that they are so laid back that “soon” is April. For a non-sales job, I would recommend waiting until a couple of weeks had passed before calling them. Do what feels right to you.
Good luck with your job search!
Susan
Hi Chandlee,
I am in need of advise on follow-up after a second interview. I have been in the interview process as of 3/11/13 for 2 months now. The first interview went extremely well, and the second interview was less formal yet went even better.
After the interview was over I was told to expect a call from the HR manager by the end of the week. This was a Monday night. 2/11. I immediately sent my thank-you notes and stated a few things we spoke of in the interview and re-interated by excitement and readiness to the chaellenges that were presented.
After a week and a half with no response I reached out to the HR manager, no response another week passed, I reached out to the Hiring Manager, no response.
Then on 2/28 I recieved a one sentence email from the HR Manager apologzing for her late response offering that they were indeed wrapping of the interview in the upcoming week and that she would contact me the next week. (week of 3/4) That week has come and gone no response.
Should Ionce more contact the HR manager and if so, should I call or email??? what do I say?
thanks
Wandat,
I recommend contacting the HR Manager, reminding them of your continued interest in the job — and asking them if they need anymore additional information.
You can email or call — it’s up to you. I recommend following up on a Tuesday as it is generally the most productive day of the week.
Good luck and all the very best,
Chandlee
I had my second interview last week and feel it went really well. I had to interview with 4 different people and it took about an hour and a half. The general counsel did a thumbs up behind my head when he dropped me off with someone else after he interviewed me and she did thumbs up back. I’m sure I was not Suisse to notice but I did. Now I am totally stressed out because both interviews went so so well but have not heard back. I sent a thank you email to the human resource person as I did not have the other information. He said he was out if the office but would be back the next day and see where we were. No word but trying to stay calm. Does the thumbs up sound osirive or did it just give me a false sense of security???? Thank you! Cheryl
Cheryl,
That sounds like positive body language, and it sounds like you followed up appropriately. Given that they also likely have other applicants, keep you your job search until you receive and accept a written job offer for this position.
Good luck!
Chandlee
I’ve been in the process with a company for a few weeks. I had a phone interview with them about three weeks ago, drive 6 hours for a in person interview the next week, and submitted a requested writing sample this past Monday. In the interview, they said they would be wrapping up the process the middle of this week, but I have yet to hear anything from them one way or another. This leaves me with two questions:
(1) Should I e-mail expressing my renewed interest and asking for an updated timeline to their process, or is it still too soon?
(2) The company for which I work now has mentioned allowing me the opportunity to test into a high position early. However, because I am normally the one who checks applicant tests, they would have to write a whole new test for me. I REALLY want the job that I interviewed for. Should I ask to test early, or should I wait, knowing that if I get the other job, I will have asked them to create a test for me for nothing?
Hi Chanlee,
I wrote last week to you. Well, 1 position of the 2 has been filled. I have a feeling I am no longer being considered because I was willing to take a 15k paycut for this job. That is hurting my chances, as I was in a hiring mgr position and if the job paid $15 per hr and a candidate previously made 50k I wouldn’t even consider them. Guess I should be thankful I was considered. Anyways. I have 2 interviews scheduled. today and 1 next week. Next weeks interview would be more money, and a former coworker of mine who was recruited by them first, referred them to me. She is very big in my industry (multi-family housing)and I started her in the business 12 yrs ago. She gave me a glowing reference. Turns out, another ex employee of mine works there, and he too gave me a glowing reference. Also co-worker 1 knows the vice president of the company and sent her an email. They are flying in to meet me next Thursday as co worker #2 told them they better “grab me before its too late” Maybe the stars are aligning here finally!! advice to others-I know firsthand that obviously some salary is better than no salary..but it would probably be in your favor to apply for postions that are similar to what you were making before. Chanlee-what is your opinion on this? Good luck to everyone on here..;-) Mia
Mia,
One thing to consider — and that is rarely discussed here and on other sites — is that there are often many more candidates than you for any one position. Frequently, a hiring decision does not hinge on what you have done or said you need to make or any one particular factor over another — but simply a candidate who has more direct experience in an area than another.
The rule of thumb on salary is to not talk first if you can possibly help it. Ideally, you want the employer to start with the offer. Don’t sell yourself short, but don’t oversell yourself either…
Your opportunity this week sounds good…Good luck with the interview process and keep us posted.
All the best,
Chandlee
Hi,
I want to first say that this blog is AMAZING!!!
I interviewed a few months ago over the phone for a case management position through a non profit agency. The phone interview went very well and the hiring manager informed me that I seemed very passionate about the work, however, it seems as though I didn’t have the client experience they were looking for at the time. She then continued to explain that she understood that I had recently graduated college a year ago and that there was no way that I could obtain the “work experience” they were looking for without being hired by an agency. I have been exclusively interning and volunteering for similar agencies over the past 3 years.
The same hiring manager called me in to interview for a different position that I hadn’t even applied for. During the interview, she spoke highly of me to the other staff members and the interview went very well. A week later I was asked to interview with the executive director and the interview was more do relaxed and the director asked me about my future career aspirations. At the end of the interview the director informed me that they should be contacting me soon. I sent a follow up email to the hiring manager the next day and a week later she emailed me informing me that she was out sick and thanked me for my patience. She informed me that they would be meeting later that week to discuss the position and she informed me that the start date would be close to or after the new year ( by the way, I didnt inquire about the start date in my email) and that she would give me more details as soon as she has them regardless If I’m selected or not. It has been over a week since I last heard from her. Should I send another email or just wait? Errrrrr this is so frustrating lol. Excuse the typos, I’m using my phone
Hi Chandlee,
This website is amazing for those on pins and needles. I had 2 interviews.1 with HR the other with the hiring manager. Everything went well..The hiring manager did not give her card to anyone on purpose (she said later) but from the company website I determined her email adress and sent a Thank you. On Tuesday, she called and said that she neglected to have me or any of the other applicants fill out the company application and she was asking HR for help with the hiring decision. She had received my application on Wednesday. There are 4 top applicants (out of many) and I am one of them and 2 positions open so I have a 50/50 chance. Today is Friday and I have not yet heard back. I understand thats only a few days, but both people that have the positions now today is their last day. Should I calll today to folllow -up? I know they are on a time crunch.
Thanks for your help!
Mia,
It sounds like you’ve already followed up. Now all you can do is “hurry up and wait.” Or, perhaps use the time you have been given to fill out holiday cards!
Good luck and all the very best,
Chandlee
I’m not sure if I should just chalk this one up as a rejection or not. I partly flubbed because I neglected to close the deal and not get any info on how long it would take for them to make a decision. It’s been over two weeks since my face-to-face interview (which I think went well besides the closing). Since then I did the traditional follow-up email promptly after the face-to-face. A week ago I sent a nicely worded email asking when they might make a decision and reiterated my interest in the position. Nothing. No contact at all since I left the interview. Should I call or just move on?
Jaime,
Hang tight and wait to hear back. In my experience, searches almost always take more time than you think that they will. If the job disappears from the website, then chances are good that it is filled.
Good luck and all the very best,
Chandlee
Hi Work Coach,
I’m stuck in the same waiting phase which I’m finding stressful even though it’s only been 2 days. I had my first interview last Friday when the interviewer really liked me and said I would be the perfect candidate for the job. He invited me back for a more formal interview with him and another director on Monday. They thew difficult question after difficult question at me for 2 hours, part of which was a final chat. In the middle of a sentence the director i’d seen twice. Suddenly said ” how do you cope with rejection?”. It came out of nowhere but I managed to answer.
My problem is after asking a million questions and asking them plenty myself, they said we’ll be in contact soon. I stupidly didn’t ask about next steps and timeframes. I’ve sent my thank you email and some extra info they needed and now I’m not sure what else I can do. Did I mention that I am incredibly impatient???
I have no clue if the interview went well. So frustrating!!!
Any feedback would be fabulous. Thank you!
Fiona,
There should be a name to describe the period between an interview and when you hear back the results of a search. Phrases like “waiting game” don’t really describe the intensity of emotions one feels. It’s a roller coaster switching back and forth between feeling confident and self-doubt, as well as exhaustion and exhilaration. A common experience for many.
It sounds like you have done the very best you can. The only effective strategy that I know of is one is recommended for parents of small crying children: Distraction! Distract yourself by doing something nice for yourself, spending time with friends and family, movies, or looking at other additional possibilities. It may not make the impatience go away, but hopefully it will make it somewhat easier…
Good luck and all the best,
Chandlee
Hi Chandlee,
I followed you advice and did my best to distract myself! Mission accomplished, with some difficulty.
Got calls from 2 other companies to come in for interview which made me feel better, but also got asked back for 3rd interview with the big boss (1 rank higher than directors I met). They also said I may need to come in to see the same directors so I’m guessing they have some concerns about hiring me. Never had to interview so many times before! Not sure how to deal with this but right now I feel honesty is the best policy and that I should ask them what concerns they have. That way I can at least try to put their minds at ease. What do you think??
Thanks again!!
Hi Fiona,
No need to ask for their concerns. Just interview. Hiring is a big decision for organizations, this may simply be the last step in their process. Normally you get screened out before the interview with a senior executive if they are not interested.
Good luck and all the best,
Chandlee
Hi there,
I thought I’d give an update of my situation in case any others read what I wrote. I found out early this week that the director who interviewed me resigned which was why they had to do another round of interviews. Despite being grilled and feeling negative I got offered the job, and the other interview I got called for worked well and I got offered that on the same day.
Stay strong people! It is so hard to go through the interview process. Its so important to you, more than to the interviewer. Also you end up having to reveal a lot about yourself which to be honest is not what we all want.
Anyhoo – thought I’d post a positive outcome as I fear that many forget to do so.
Happy jobhunting people!!
Hi Fiona,
Thanks for sharing your positive story; it provides a glimpse of what often goes on behind the hiring curtain and is very valuable.
Good luck and all the very best to you,
Chandlee
I managed to receive two sets of interviews with company A and company B at the same time. Company B extended an offer right away, Company A is taking along time, although it would be my dream job. Due to finances, I took the offer from B, began working, still waiting on A. Would should I do if A offers me a position, how should I handle the resigning ? I am almost positive A will extend an offer soon, and want me to start right away. I guess this is a good problem to have, both are Fortune 500 companies.
Hi
How are you all? Once again, I need some career advice. This might not be the correct section to ask this question.
I been temping for this company for good 3 months. Three weeks after I was hired, I noticed I can improve many excel related templates. So I went ahead with it and presented to my manager and everyone loved it. Few weeks later, my manager spoke to me about FT offer and I showed great interest. I was told, at the end of my assignment we’ll talk about it again.
Meanwhile, I did go for 2-3 job interview and she was well aware of it. But every time I mentioned that I need to take 1-2 hrs off, she used to remind me that I am under a commitment and I can not leave this place until the assignment is over and also, how they are working on a FT offer.
The person I am covering for currently is scheduled to return soon at the same time, I am faced with a family crisis that forces me to fly out of state 1 week before that person arrives. I did mention this to my manager and they understood that situation.
Again, they spoke to me about an offer but this time they mentioned that once I return back, we can discuss an offer. So everything is all good and great.
Now few days ago, they made an announcement. They promoted someone in the department to a new position and hired a new person as a replacement for the promoted person’s position. Therefore, once the person I am covering for comes back, there is no physical space for me to sit and work.
So my question is, what are the chances of me getting an offer once I return back since there is no physical space? Also, DO you think I lost my chance at the FT because of my emergency? As far as I know, job offer to acceptance to negotiations process is more then a week. I am lost at thoughts right now, because I feel that they offer the position to the new person before I mentioned about my emergency and gave me false hope so I do not take up another offer from another company.
Please share your thoughts, because its been bothering me a lot and would like to know how to handle future temp offer if I am unable to find a FT offer.
Dear John,
Argh…that sounds like a very difficult situation.
That said, a few potential thoughts and strategies:
1. It is not your place to worry about where you would sit if you did get the job. Quite likely that they will figure out how to take care of it. I wouldn’t read that alone as a sign that you don’t have a place at the organization.
2. That you are good with Excel shows you have a skill that this organization — and others will likely need. Don’t give up on marketing that skill: It is quite likely that these skills are in demand.
3. I would never recommend giving up a job search based on something that SEEMS like a sure thing, especially since you have skills that have been noticed and appreciated. In the interim, why not check out FlexJobs.com (a site that has no affiliation with Work Coach Cafe). There is a fee to join the site — but the site verifies all jobs before they are posted). FlexJobs has skills tests you can take to showcase your knowledge of Excel and other specialty area. This may help you find out about opportunities.
Bottom line: You may want to continue to consider the company AND keep looking. I doubt the company is short-sighted enough to decide not to hire you based on your need to spend a small amount of time with family.
Good luck.
Best,
Chandlee
Hi John:
I’m not hearing a commitment on their part. Use your personal power and ask for an appointment to discuss the FT position. If they put you off, then gently and apologetically but firmly let them know how much you’d love to work with them but you need to have FT employment and that you’ll need to be continuing on the interview circuit. And you will need to take time off to do that. No need to ham it up, it’s clear you’d love to work with them. You can show that desire while at the same time expressing what position their current decision not to go forward yet is putting you in. As for desk space. Might mean something, might mean nothing. I’m more concerned that they are putting you off. Also, if you aren’t already, put more energy into those other interviews. It may turn out you get a real offer from another company you’d love to work for.
I hope this is helpful!
Hello
I am currently employed, but I am looking to leave my company for reasons too long to type. I applied for a job at a very popular place on july 10th and it was for a position with two departments. I didnt hear from anyone until my phone interview on aug 10th which led to a face to face one on aug 13. During my first interview, she mentioned that it would be difficult to ask about my employment history since im still working and they dont know im leaving. So in my thank you email I gave her references to speed the process along. I feel like the interview went well since my 2nd interview with the head of HR (who i would be working for) was scheduled aug 30th. I sent him a thank you email as well and he said he had 2 more people to see and that a decision would be made nxt week (which was last week). I think it went well. We even went off topic about sports towards the end. Its been about 2 weeks now, and im getting paranoid. Do you think i still have a shot?
Hi Alice,
It’s hard to tell whether or not you are still in the running if you don’t ask. You may want to reach out and contact your last interviewer directly. Let them know you remain interested in the job, and offer to put them in touch with additional references if they have need of it.
Good luck and all the best,
Chandlee
Hello Chandlee,
I gave him a call on Monday, and I got his assistant who said he was running around the building. I left my number for him to return my call, but nothing as of yet… :/
thanks!
Hi Alice,
Yes, that’s always the challenge. Sometimes leaving a message with the assistant — or on voice mail doesn’t yield a response. Unless the job is no longer posted on the company website, I’d consider the job still open and sit tight.
Good luck!
Best,
Chandlee
Hi Chandlee,
Just to update…I never heard back from the place…or anywhere else for that matter 🙁 I wonder whats the problem though.
Hi Alice,
Hang in there and take a look at some new opportunities. To increase your chances of hearing back, make sure you only apply for positions that you meet at least 70% of the qualifications for — and apply as soon as you see the listings.
Good luck and all the best,
Chandlee
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Esen,
What a nice message to receive. Good luck and all the best to you in your own search.
All the Best,
Chandlee
Hi Work Coach,
My situation is a bit more difficult. I was fired from my job in July when I was 5 months pregnant. My friend reached out to me and said her new job was hiring and she put a word in to her boss for me who had just come off maternity leave herself and told me to send her my resume ASAP. I did so and I had an interview and pretest that same week. Everything went well but I did not hear from her boss for a couple of weeks so I followed up with a call. The manager asked me how far along I was and she said that she is working on getting me a sit down with the supervisors since I did so well on my pretest. I waited for about two weeks, sending one follow up email with no response. About 2 weeks ago, she emailed me and said she wanted to have me come in to meet the supervisors. The meeting lasted about 6 minutes and they seemed impressed with my availability and skills. One even said “Let’s pull you up a chair right now then.” I’m now 7 months pregnant and it’s very obvious so I’m sure if she did not disclose that to them, that they saw my big belly. Anyway, as soon as I left the meeting, she called to ask when I could start, I said immediately. About two hours later, I received a forwarded email from her that she sent to HR that appeared to be a job offer. HR then called me to have me fill paperwork out for a background check and a job application. I immediately completed those and faxed them to her. I sent an email saying it was done and she confirmed receipt. The manager started her own medical practice and her last day with the company happened to be the day of my last meeting so I have contacted HR and one of the supervisors to check the status. They both said they were just waiting on the background check. It’s been 7 business days not including Labor Day. I don’t remember other background checks taking this long. I’m very anxious because I am pregnant and due on Thanksgiving so if I’m not selected for whatever reason, I want to know so I can move on and take the “if I get this job” idea out of my thinking. It would be perfect. It’s night shift so my husband can keep the baby, it pays very well, it’s self scheduling, full benefits for the family, and twenty minutes from my apartment. I have never been in any serious legal trouble or convicted of anything but I was fired from my last job without good reason, which is why I qualify for unemployment. Does it sound like they could actuallybe waiting or could my previous termination be standing in my way? My friend who works for them actually trained me at a precious job we worked at together so I’m sure she has vouched for my work ethic and behavior. I’m feeling so anxious and stressed and I’m at my wits end. Please guide me.
Hi Chelsea,
Unfortunately, I don’t have any magic answers for you. It’s often that it takes a while for a job offer to be extended. Background checks can take a while, but if you don’t hear by next week you may want to follow up again. That said, in the meantime — I encourage you to keep up your search. One other option you may want to pursue is that of flexible work arrangements. Flexjobs.com is a site that has many jobs with flexible hours and work at home schedules. There is a fee to use the site but FlexJobs verifies all jobs listed on the site to make sure that they are real openings. Again, applying for other jobs may help you keep your anxiety at bay.
Good luck and keep us posted.
All the best,
Chandlee
I just want to start off with, I would be checking into crazy-town by now if I hadn’t stumbled upon this blog (as I’m already half-way there by now). So- thank you!
I am probably wigging myself out WAY too much about this, as it hasn’t even been a full week yet, but I feel the need to get a second opinion if anything to just calm my frazzled nerves.
Almost 2 weeks after I applied for an admin position with a large college outside of my current state (plans to move there, and it’s no secret I’m not “local” to the prospective employer), I get a call late in the day (Mon) while I was at work, looking to speak more with me about it. I wait til noon the following day (Tues) to return the call. They confirm with me if I’m still interested in the position (yes!!!) and we set up a date and time for a phone interview (Thurs, same week).
Thursday comes, I duck out of work for an hour to make the phone interview. I speak with a woman from HR and an Admin hiring mgr and it goes VERY well! By the end of the call, they are requesting to coordinate a time/date for a 2nd interview in person- again knowing full well I am not local. 15 minutes after the call, I get an email from the HR woman requesting again to coordinate a date, as well as attaching the benefits brochure (good sign?). I happened to be vacationing 2 hours away for the weekend and I offered to push my flight home back a day and take a day off work, in order to make the meeting happen. Date clears, I call and pay the fee to push the flight back, book a hotel room and I begin to dance in glee. SO soon after the phone interview, they want to meet with me in person!
In-person interview happens, I believe it went well. I met with two new people: my would-be bosses (VP and Exec Dir). They seemed to be charmed and were smiling, the whole nine. It was only able to last 30 minutes, as the VP had a meeting to attend. Had he not had to attend a meeting, it would have continued, but we covered a lot of ground in the 30 mins allotted. I KNOW I was nervous in the interview. I believe I answered the questions well, and smiled a lot. I love the college, as I am a TWICE graduate (which I believe is a large reason why I was contacted for this admin position), and it wasn’t lost on them of that and the fact that I’d love to be part of the college once again.
After the interview, I sent a quick thank you email to the HR woman who I originally interviewed with and whom I had been in contact with the entire process thus far. I requested she forward my thanks to the two of them and that it was lovely meeting with them. She said she would and she would follow up that week.
Now- I understand orientation has been going on since that day I went in to interview to just yesterday, and it’s been a HUGE event and I am positive admin has had their hands full and then some all week/weekend- and even today being the beginning of classes. However I haven’t heard from her yet. I know it has not been a week from the 2nd interview yet, on top of the all the nuttiness I know that’s going on— I can’t help but feel super on edge, stressed, and anxious about it. A lot is riding on obtaining this job- my relocation to a new city and everything (to which I said I could start 3 weeks after obtaining the position, when they asked me when I could start if I got it. They were pleasantly surprised, I could tell, knowing I am not local and working out of state currently)- basically a new start on life which I desperately need (current job is contract and running out soon) is riding on this job, and it would be an amazing one to boot.
In the meantime, I’m still scouring the net for jobs. But job-hunting out of state, and in this economy, is very difficult. I’ve come so far with this job prospect that I’d be devastated to fail at this point.
I guess I’m just looking for a second (or third…) opinion on this- I’m hoping I have a shot at this and that I’m just freaking myself out for not much reason! Ahh!!
D,
Take a deep breath. The beginning of the academic year is nuts in higher education. I say this having worked at colleges. Searches almost always take longer than they should.
It sounds like you had a positive experience, and that they are certainly interested in staying in touch with you. As always, I cannot prognosticate whether that will result in an offer.
I never recommend waiting by the phone and waiting for it to ring. Keep your eyes peeled for other opportunities at the college — and others — as you wait to hear back. Set up alerts on job sites to send you notifications when listings get posted, and keep exploring and pursuing options. It simply cannot hurt.
Hang tight, and keep the momentum going…
Good luck and all the best,
Chandlee
Hi Chandlee,
Thanks for the response. Today, I heard from HR saying they are going forward with references, and I’d probably hear tomorrow. One of my references contacted me this evening saying they were called and she gave a “glowing” review. 🙂
This is looking pretty good for me. Let’s keep our fingers crossed.
D
Hi D,
Sounds great. Keep us posted and good luck.
All the Best,
Chandlee
GOT THE JOB!!
Thanks for your support! I’m over the moon!
D
D,
Wonderful! Good luck and keep us posted.
Best,
Chandlee
My situation is like this:
First, I had phone interview by HR. Then next week HR called and confirmed another date for next phone interview with the Director. It went well. After 5 days, HR called and confirmed another date for personal interview. Also note during the phone interview the director said, they prefer someone to join by September, 2012.
So now I am done with personal interview on 16th Aug. It went pretty well, and after the interview I did send Thank you letter to each one of them. During the interview they informed me that the last interview is scheduled on 27th Aug, 2012. And I should hear from them after that.
As today is 29th Aug, now what should I do? How long I should wait to send the followup letter.
Please help, as I need your suggestion badly.
Andy
Thank heavens for this blog. I have been caught in the waiting period for months now and the latest interview was about six weeks ago. Everything was positive and I seem to have the job but I am awaiting the official job offer letter. I have called and left messages with HR and there has been no response. I understand that the office can be quite busy but I have things on my end to plan as the job involves me relocating. I am ready to go but I am still awaiting the official offer letter. What should I do next? This feels like a strange kind of purgatory.
Krista
Hi Krista,
I recommend that you call the person with whom you interviewed directly, and ask him or her for a status update. Don’t leave a message or send an email, do something which invites an immediate response.
Keep us posted and good luck.
Best,
Chandlee
Hello,
I am seeking advice regarding follow up. After my second interview , I was told by the HR that they will give me a call the following week. I also received an email, asking me to provide few references (Same day). so I did my part of thank you letter and provided the ref.
After not receiving a call that week, I decided to make a follow up call. It went to VM but the VM is this type “Please leave a message for ###-###-####”, so I decided to not leave a VM since I wasn’t sure if the right person will get it or not. I did email the HR and did received a quick response that they are still interviewing people and will be in touch.
How long should I wait again to follow up? Its been a week since the last follow up. Should I wait out another week and not bother them or just follow up again?
Please advice
John,
Wait at least another week. They responded and told you they are still interviewing, so it’s your cue to wait to hear from them, since you’ve done your entire part. It’s a good sign however, that they asked for references, so take that optimism with you and wait to hear. Good luck
John,
I agree with Mark. Give it at least another week — and think about what you want to have happen from the outcome. It’s unlikely a second follow-up will hurt — or hinder — your chances at getting hired, but it’s also unlikely that following up a second time will push the hiring decision in your favor. If it’s more important for you to definitively know your status, you should follow up.
In the interim, continue to apply for other opportunities. I once did this and got an offer letter the same day I received a rejection letter. I must say the offer helped the rejection feel much less painful.
All the Best,
Chandlee
Thank you soo much Mark and Chanlee.
I have taken up a temp assignment to keep up resume up to date and will try to follow up end of this week. Hoping for positive response in this second follow up after two weeks.
Thank you once again
Hi John,
What wonderful news. Keep us posted, and good luck in your temp assignment — sometimes they turn into full-time jobs!
Best,
Chandlee
Didn’t get it. I called and they called back afterward. They went with a candidate with more experienced then what they posted in the site. Lets hope the temp job opens new door
Hi John,
Oh, so sorry to hear that. Let’s do hope that temp job opens new doors — and I really recommend applying for other positions too in the meantime.
All the Best,
Chandlee
Christine,
In your case, since it is a large company, I would still wait until at least the Monday…it’s still early. Annoyingly, it took me 7 agonizing weeks to find out my results…as you will see from earlier thread. Why larger companies take so long is another discussion altogether…I think it’s silly sometimes…but yes, in your case, it is still early.
You have displayed interest and excitement with the thank you email…now the “process” is something HR teams and managers want to be left to…As for phone or email…I think these days email is better to allow them opportunity to respond how they like…Phoning gets results, but it can backfire and piss them off if you corner them when they are still making decisions
Love this website! I’m in a similar situation. I interviewed with a company on Tuesday, July 24th and emailed my thank you follow ups on Wednesday. When the interview ended, the HR contact told me she would speak with the team and let me know their feedback. It is now Wednesday, August 1st and I have yet to receive a response from HR.
What is the average amount of time that companies take to make a decision? I work in advertising (the agency side) and this interview was with a relatively large company. I’m slightly concerned because they haven’t gotten back to me with any feedback. Also is email the best way to follow up? Or is a phone call a better way to follow up?
Thanks in advance for your help! I am just trying to not make the same mistakes (if I even made any at all) in future interviews. 🙂
Hi Christine,
It’s really hard to pin down an average amount of time that companies take to make a decision. There are so many variables – size, industry, personalities, and on and on.
I would definitely wait another few days, until next week (so it would be 2 weeks after the interview) would be best. Give them time to work through their process.
Good luck,
Susan
This website has been keeping me sane.
I have a preliminary interview with HR for a well known company in the entertainment industry for a talent coordinator position. I nailed it! They set up the next interview while I was still on the phone.
Then I had a first interview with my would-be boss. I nailed it again. She explained that she needed to contact a few more candidates but that she wanted to set up a follow up interview. They set it up with me via email the next day for the following week.
I had the second interview. She explained that at this point she had cancelled her other interviews, and that she wanted two other individuals who are her boss and the technical equivalent to her, to be present to speak with me so that she could hire me. I was elated! She explained that they must be busy and that they would call me during the week, but did not specify a day or time.
I hadn’t heard anything. I called on Thursday and left a voice mail to followup and to wish her and everyone well as the area had been flooded the day prior.
I still have not heard anything from anyone. Should I call this Wednesday? Send an email to HR? Or let it go? I really want this job, and I am nervous that I messed something up and have now blown my chances. I am also anxious because I’d be moving my family across the county. Please let me know what you think, I believe your advice is invaluable.
Marnie,
What you have experienced is — unfortunately, a common experience. Interviewing is like a rapid fire courtship with a deadline to propose — often behind the scenes there are invisible complications to the process.
If the area has had a flood, chances are good they are a bit behind. They have also told you that they are running behind. I recommend you give it three more business days, then call and see if you can speak with them directly. Do not leave a message or send an e-mail as it sounds like only a real sense of what is going on will bring clarity to you.
Good luck and all the best,
Chandlee
I tried to call again today. No answer. I did leave a voice mail asking when I might hear back as to the next step and acknowledging they are busy. I am not sure I will ever get her on the phone again.
I received a phone call yesterday asking to apply for a different job at a company that is currently a client of mine. They want to hire me on full-time. I’m not nearly as interested as I would be working for the “radio silence” company. I do not want it to seem as if I’m putting undue pressure on the hiring manager at “radio silence”, and I know that this client’s hiring process is extremely long and drawn out, but I would be hired if I were to apply. Is this something I should be mentioning to “radio silence”? At what point to I just move on?
In other circumstances, continued contact with “radio silence” would risk you appearing too desperate or pushy (especially if the flood was a considerable event that hit their office)…however, your new opportunity will soon warrant you cause to give another push in the form of: “I am still very much interested in the (x) opportunity…just so I can move forward to …wondering if my not hearing back is an indication that I am no longer a candidate…”
That is my opinion. I would wait until after this weekend, and then you would have right to do that
It’s your call, Marnie. One thing I recommend is to pay attention to how organizations treat you during the hiring process. If they give your radio silence as an applicant you may also receive that as an employee — not an ideal situation always, from my perspective.
Good luck,
Chandlee
Love this website–I’m stuck in the waiting game after a second interview that felt good…but as time creeps on you completely second guess yourself.
For me, my confidence is teetering on the length of second interview…she cut the allotted 30 minutes short to fifteen minutes, but not in a bored way, she was very friendly and chatty…asked no tough questions. It was also the Executive Director, and she herself began by saying “Well, obviously I know you can do the job, if we’re talking, so this is just to tell me about yourself” I did so, kept it friendly and positive…she gave me her card too, and said contact her at any time.
I’m overthinking no doubt, but just wondering how many others would be at that stage (the first interviews were hour long with 2 interviewers) and also there was role to fit testing to even get to that stage. Is shortened talk good or bad?
Hi Mark,
I have no way of knowing why she shortened the interview — more than likely she had other pressing issues at the time as well.
I recommend you follow up with the company directly, express your continued interest in the job and ask if they need any additional information regarding your application and references.
Good luck and all the best,
Chandlee
Thanks Chandlee,
I have just done that follow-up, so I suppose I will prompt a response. Yes, all signs were pointing yes, so a delay is always worrying. My earlier interviewers (a sign they like me) even went so far as to offer general advice to me on the second interview–said don’t be intimidated etc…But second interview was completely relaxed…too relaxed!
Mark,
Delays happen for all kind of reasons — many of which have nothing to do with candidates — and everything to do with summer vacations this time of year.
Good luck and please let us know the outcome.
Best,
Chandlee
Still waiting, but was given thanks for “following up” and told process is on hold because not all candidates had a chance for second interview with Exec Director before she went away on business.
As more encouragement though, I found out my lead reference had already spoken to the Exec Director BEFORE my own second interview, with the exec even telling my reference I had impressed her team, and she planned to meet me…This might explain why she was so relaxed and just had me talk about my background in a casual, short chat
However, the wait goes on…It’s turned into a 6 week process. I suppose at the Corporate level, strict procedures have to be seen through, even if her “team” wants to just hire me…Hope I made a lasting impression though!
Mark,
Thanks for the update and keep us posted!
Best,
Chandlee
Hi! I recently interviewed for a position with a local company. I did a test on the computer and passed with flying colors. I was then invited for an in-person interview. That went great as well. So from there I was invited to participate in the 3rd phase of the hiring process, which was an all day job shadow. I toured all the different departments and was given the opportunity to excercise what I was shown. In each department, I excelled at the task at hand. All of the employees were great and interacted with me well. I followed up after that phase and was told that they were still interviewing all the way into this week. I have not followed up since last week and was told that they would keep me posted. Should I follow up again or just sit and wait. And how long do I wait before responding again?
Hi,
I’d give it another week. It often takes companies longer to work through their own processes than you would think.
All the Best,
Chandlee
Dear Work Coach,
I have appear in 3rd Interview With Vice President and Member of Board of Directors, The Interview was Really good, we have talked about lots of things and different topics. In windup comments he has used such phrases that assures me that I have been selected for the said post. He told me that he don’t want to wait me more and he will get back to me by the evening or next day. By the evening I have sent him a thank you letter. I have waited for two days and didn’t hear from them, Then decided to followup. When I call to HR (two days back), They told me that the interviewer is on Business tour and will be back after week, I told her that I am running out of time because my Visa is going to Expire, She assure me that she will follow up the interviewer and get back to me ASAP. I have followed up two days back, What should I do, Follow up or Wait, and If follow up then by Email or Call. Please guide me.
Thanks
Sohali,
I’m afraid it sounds like you’ve done all you can do in terms of following up.
If you are a university student or recent graduate, the best thing to do would be to seek advice from your career or international student office — they may be able to help you find a temporary position that would enable you to remain in the country until an offer comes through.
Unfortunately, most companies follow-up on their own timeline not on yours.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Best,
Chandlee
Getting the right job can be like finding the right partner — you both know when it’s right. Having an interview team complicates the picture and so does bureaucracy. But I have to say that I’ve found in my experience that if a hiring person or agency says they will call you Monday or whenever and they don’t, lick your wounds and move on, both in your mind and in your actions. If they want you then they will call anyway. Sometimes I wonder if the reason for this widespread lack of consideration for the job candidate occurs because we are so willing to put up with it. We are advised over and over to follow up, keep calling, accept whatever we hear. We are encouraged to go overboard with our entreaties. Anyway, my two cents is to do your best, treat yourself with dignity. The minute you feel you are getting the run around go to the next interview. I hope this helps.
Hi Deborah,
Thanks for providing your perspective. I think you’re right about the job search being like finding the right partner.
I also think that it often takes much longer for plans to be made than we think it will.
There are a lot of initiatives that employers are now taking to treat candidates better — there’s actually now an annual award called The Candidate Experience Awards which recognizes employers who treat candidates well regardless of whether they’ve gotten the job or not.
I agree that treating yourself with dignity and doing your best is critical to personal and professional success.
Thanks for weighing in.
Best,
Chandlee
I had my first interview on wednesday may 30th and received a call that same week on friday june 1 to come in for a second interview which was on wednesday june 6th. Both interviews went well, and could tell that the HR manager really liked me and felt that I could do the job. During the second interview I was told that this position needs to be filled asap and that they would have their decision by the end of the week. I was expecting a call that friday but received nothing so on monday i decided to call to see if she made her decision, and she informed that she was out sick thursday and friday but is in the process right then on making a decision and would be making her calls the next day which would be tuesday. So hearing that I figured that I would be hearing from her on tuesdayto find out if i got it or not but i received no call. Now its wednesday and still nothing. What I want to know is, should I follow up again? and if so when?
Nadine,
You’ve followed up enough. As I’ve said before, it often takes longer than people think. Hold tight and — in the interim — distract yourself by applying for other jobs, too!
Good luck and all the best,
Chandlee
I have completed a phone screen, 1st interview and 2nd interview with a major automotive firm for a IT Project Manager position. After each interview I immediately received a positive feedback from the HR rep saying there was strong interest.
After the last (2nd) interview the HR rep contacted me the next day letting me know that the interest was strong and that they would begin the background check. She said it would last 1-2 days. I heard nothing for 4 days when she contacted me saying the background check had been completed and now they were ready to present an offer. She said the offer package would be written up and need approval. For this she said it would take 1-2 days. 2 days have passed since then and still no call or email.
Q: Is the company intentionally delaying giving them time to interview other people?
Q: What is the chance I will get an offer?
Q: Should I call or email and ask if the offer is coming?
Q: Should I assume that they will not contact me until or after they have found someone else?
Ibrahim
Ibrahim,
Be patient. It often takes more than two days. If they have verbally extended a potential offer, you will likely get one. I recommend you sit tight — as hard as it is — and follow up end of the week if you have not heard more.
Following up more at this point may make you look desperate. Give them more than 48 hours –as hard as it is — wait at least another 48 until you follow-up.
Good luck, the news sounds promising.
Best,
Chandlee
Hi, I just had my second interview and basically, they said they were going to do a backround check and call my old job, I didn’t leave on the best of terms there and I seemed honest about that, they told me I would get a yes or a no by at least tuesday, what should I do now? How do I increase my chances of being hired?
Hi Jessica,
Make sure to send them a thank you note and reiterate your interest in the job. If you have a colleague at the former position who can vouch for you and speak to the positive nature of the work that you did, ask that person if they will also serve as a reference and provide your contact information.
Good luck.
All the Best,
Chandlee
Hello. I interviewed last Friday (5/11/12) for a position with a non-profit. I know the director with whom I was interviewing from a different company where we both worked; it went well and she told me I was “competitive” with the other candidates. She said that she had final interview to conduct on Tuesday (yesterday) and would be calling folks with her decision that day. It’s now Wednesday at 11 a.m. and I haven’t heard anything. Is this as horrible a sign as I am making it out to be? I was considering sending a friendly follow up (I already sent a thank you email as well after the interview) and thought that following up this soon might be okay because I know the hiring manager personally. Do you think I should send this email today, or wait until tomorrow, when they have had a bit more time. Thanks… I’m super stressed because I really want this job, and I really don’t want another “thanks, but no thanks” letter in my mailbox. Job hunting can really be depressing…
Taylor,
I know it kills you, but I’d wait until Friday if you can stand it. Hiring nearly always takes longer than we think — especially as generally hiring managers and Directors still need to get approval before they can extend an offer.
Yes, job hunting can be depressing but I recommend you keep going and don’t give up.
Good luck to you.
All the Best,
Chandlee
I interviewed for an internship the first of March and had a second interview the last of March. In the second interview I spoke with HR and the hiring manager for the department I’d be working in. I was given the job description, salary, and relocation benefits. The next day after the second interview, HR called and wanted me to fill out a another internship application – a revised one. I did and emailed a thank you. I was told they’d be wrapping things up in about a week (not sure what that meant). A little over a week passed and I followed up with an email. I was told they were checking my references and I should hear back soon. The same week, HR requested a third reference and my official transcript. I followed up to make sure they received the transcript and was told they had received it and they should be able to make an offer on Monday, which is today and I have not heard from them as of yet . My question is does that sound like they want to offer me the job, or still considering others? I’m, confused.
CTM,
With any search, the only time that you can be certain they will offer you a job — is when they actually do. That said, they’ve certainly followed up with you a number of times and it sounds positive.
Employers very frequently have a day or two delay between when they intend to offer a job — and when they are actually able to. So I wouldn’t push any alarm bells yet. If you haven’t heard from them by week’s end, you can follow up again — and if you get another internship offer in the interim, let them know you have another offer that you also need to consider.
Good luck with all of it.
Best,
Chandlee
Hi,
I had a job interview last friday April 20th and I feel that it went very well. After discussing my qualifications and fit for the position I was told about the job, benefits, introduced to the office manager and other staff, and was asked my salary range and when I would be availale to start working. I thought this was a positve sign and I felt like I was going to be hired. At the end of the interivew I asked when they were planning to make a decision to fill the position. I was told that I will be called the following Friday to schedule a second interview becasue they have others to interview and they don’t want to make the same mistake of hiring the first person they like. They told me that the person hired for this position a few months ago isn’t working out and they hired them on the spot.
I sent a thank you email after the interview but I’m not sure if it was received becasue the interviewing manager didn’t give me a business card. I researched online to get what I hope is the correct email address. Well, Friday has come and gone without a call from the company to schedule a second interview and i didn’t get a reply to my email.
Should I follow up with a phone call Monday or give it a few more days. I am just so confused because I left there feeling like I was the candidate. I don’t want to appear desperate but I really do want this job.
Thanks.
Hi Cindy,
I recommend calling on Tuesday or Wednesday and checking in. Don’t leave a voice mail, make sure you talk to a real person and find out what’s happening.
Employers often share details of “what it’s like to work here” with all candidates as part of the process. This isn’t done to lead you on, but to help them expedite the process of hiring someone — because you get to pick where you work just as much as they get to pick who they want to work with.
They want to know the people they hire are interested in working with them. It sounds like they know you are interested in them, they are interested in you, but they have a process to follow — and that process involves talking to multiple candidates.
In the interim, I recommend staying positive, continuing your job search, and remembering — hiring processes often take a while inside companies. It’s not always on schedule process as people think. Meetings come up, customer deadlines change and they all have other work to do as they hire.
Good luck on your search and keep us posted.
Best,
Chandlee
I called today to follow up but I could not get through to the manager that I interviewed with. My only opton was to leave a voice mail message. They have not returned my call as of yet. What bothers me is that they don’t have the common courtesy to respond by either calling or emaiing the status of the position. Very frustrating!
Hi Cindy,
I know the process is frustrating, but keep in mind that employers have a very limited vocabulary they can use in the midst of a job search. In most companies, there are policies to communicate in a neutral tone of voice about hiring decisions until a job offer is extended and accepted.
This is the way it works at many hiring organizations, don’t take it personally…remember, most people are working full-time in addition to hiring — they need to hire, because there is so much work.
Good luck!
Best,
Chandlee
Thank you Susan for the advise. I’m happy to report I got the position!!
EXCELLENT, Cristy! Congratulations and thanks for letting us know!
YEA!!
EXCELLENT, Cristy! CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Thank you for letting us know. Hope this job works out really well for you!
Good luck!
Susan
Hi,
I am 63 and was laid off almost two years ago. I had a sick family member I was caring for and now I need to return to work. I do get interviews, and I take good care of my attitude and appearance and I am prompt for all my interviews. I had a second interview and in total spent 5 hours at one job site, I spoke to the HR person who told me she would get back to me and I never heard from her.
Most of the interviews I go on I also have phone interviews. To be honest, I think I sound young on the phone and I really think my age is a problem.
I kept my latest employer on my resume to read to Present. I am afraid if I take that off my resume and put an ending date I will never get an interview.
I just tell them I didn’t update my resume. What is your opinion on putting an ending date?
My last interview was last week, I feel like I am being interrogated instead of interviewed, I never had this feeling before. I haven’t hear from this employer either.
I am getting so frustrated.
I appreciate any advise you can give me.
Regards,
Mary
Hi Mary,
I don’t think it’s a good idea to be untruthful on your resume. It’s easy for a potential employer to verify that you do – or do NOT – work at that previous job, and then the opportunity is probably lost for you when it turns out not to be true.
Since you were caring for a sick family member, put that on your resume. You can still emphasize the accomplishments you had at your last employer, but your resume will have the correct dates for that job.
Good luck!
Susan
Is it more appropriate to send an email thank you for the second interview or one by mail?
Hi Cristy,
Well, it kind of depends…
My concern is that email does not always get through – it can be stopped by spam filters, typos, and technical issues. So, “snail mail” is more reliable.
But snail mail may sometimes be viewed as “too old school” by hip, high tech kinds of place (like Google, Apple, and Microsoft, I suspect). On the other hand, I know some very formal businesses (think Boston law firm) where email may be considered “too informal.”
If you got a sense of the corporate culture, follow your instinct.
Wish I had a better answer!
Good luck!
Susan
Hi,
I am in a similar position. I had a telephone interview on 28th February and was called back and had the 2nd interview on 6th March. The first interview I felt went very well, but the 2nd interview, although I didn’t think it went as well as the first, it did go reasonably well. I followed up with a thank you note on the same day of both interviews and after the 2nd interview I followed up after one week. The HR department advised that they had no made a decision, as they were stil inthe interview process and that they would let me know as soon as a decision was made. In the meantime, I noticed that they re-advertised the job on their website and online, as well as with agencies, and several agencies called me to put me forward for the role, one even advised that the Company had advised them that they had interviewed 3 external candidates all of whom were unsuccessful. I decided to give up on that one and continued my job search, and then I got an email from them today, apologising for the delay in any final decision, and saying that they now have internal candidates that have come forward and should have a final decision for me by Friday of this week!
I am not sure how to take this and needless to say it’s driving me insane. I still do feel optimistic as I don’t see what they would gain by jus keeping me hanging on, although I do feel they are not saying no just yet, just in case they don’ find someone! I know i’s impossible to really know what’s going on behind the scenes, but any comment, suggestions on your take on the situation would be greatly.
appreciated.
Thanks!
Tricia
Hi Tricia,
The thing they have to gain is to keep you from accepting a job offer from someone else IF they decide they want to hire you at the end of the week. So, they have reached out to see if you are still available and to, they hope, keep you available. In dating (in the old days), we’d call this “stringing someone along.”
However, they went to the effort to get back in touch and to keep you on the “string.” And, those ARE good signs!
HOWEVER, you have NO guarantee of a job offer at the end of this process! You could be applicant # 1 (of 5) or applicant # 5 (of 5). Hard to tell.
The fact that they re-posted the job so extensively indicates that no candidate (internal or external) “nailed it” in the first round – they didn’t find their “ideal” candidate then. Perhaps now they are deciding that the ideal candidate isn’t out there, so they will take the best candidate they can find – a rational decision.
You are definitely under consideration, but I think you were absolutely correct to go forward in your job search looking for other jobs.
Do as you did before – continue with your job search now, if only to keep from wasting time wondering what will happen here.
Good luck!
Susan
Now that is a very good sign, from a person (me) who is very skeptical. Usually checking references is the last step to making an offer. Good luck!
I had my second interview with an out of state company about ten days ago. The first interview was about one month before the second. The company covered air fare for my trip to the second interview. I felt both interviews went well. After the second interview, They told me they would interview another candidate, and then late of same day I was asked for references. Last week, my references informed me they have been contacted by HR people. Is this a good sign or just a typical hiring procedure? Should I follow up with them if I have not heard from them after another week?
Thanks,
Bob
Hi Bob,
I concur with Debbie, below. Checking references is a very good sign that you are one of the finalists. You might not be THE finalist (yet), but you are certainly in the running. Hope this works out for you!
Good luck!
Susan
Well, after having not heard from the company for over 3 weeks after my second interview, I followed up with one of the interviewers for status. She said the core hiring team has not been able to get together and officially to take next steps in bringing me on board. They will meet next week and I should hear from them soon.
Does this mean they have decided to offer me the job, or at least very close?
Thanks,
Bob
Hi Bob,
It sounds like you are one of the candidates who made it past the first cut, at least. It’s hard to tell what the next steps will be. Probably more interviews and reference checks.
Good luck!
Susan
A week later after my follow-up, I got a call from corporate HR director. She said she had received my information from hiring branch office and asked my salary expectation. I responded her with my past salary range. After explaining to me some company benefits, she said she would put things together and send to me the following week. To me it sounded like a formal offer package coming soon.
I did not receive anything for almost two weeks. Then I contacted the person who interviewed me at branch office. She emailed me back with information of company benefit. She said no decision has been made because they are interviewing one additional candidate. The decision should be made before end of May (a month from now). She told me I am still in the running and thanked me for the time I have invested so far.
At this moment, I don’t feel confident on this and hopefully she is telling me the truth. Should I continue to follow up with them for the status?
Hi Bob,
I would not give up on the job; quite possible there’s an internal discussion on salary, rate of pay, etc. It does sound like they are still interested in you — and that perhaps communication isn’t always seamless between corporate HR and the branch office. I’d follow-up again in two weeks just to let them know you remain interested. As always, I recommend you continue your search in the interim as well.
Best of luck to you and please keep us posted on your progress.
Good luck,
Chandlee
Well, after a long wait, I followed up again with the hiring manager. She said they have finally completed reviewing all application and are close to making a decision. She wants to connect with me via phone before this weekend.
Any idea what does this mean? Does this mean I am still under the consideration pending the outcomes of this phone conversation?
Thanks for your input,
Bob
Bob,
As I have no idea what the hiring manager wants to discuss, I don’t know what this means. What I can say is that it’s likely you remain under consideration — and even if you don’t — you made a strong impression.
It’s rare that a hiring manager wants to speak with you in person if they aren’t interested or don’t like you.
Good luck,
Chandlee
The hiring manager called me and she began the conversation with offering me the job ! I felt great and so relied after a long job searching process.
The offered package is very much what I have expected. However, when I searched online for general industrial standard salary scale for similiar position in that area, the base salary offered is somewhere in the low 25%. Of course, I don’t know if this information aligns with this company’s payscale. So, should I negotiate for a little bit more salary without jeopardizing this job offer?
Thanks,
Bob,
Often salary is very much dependent on where you live and the nature of the job where you are interviewing. I recommend you negotiate carefully as it sounds like you still want to work in the job!
One way to navigate the salary is to find out whether they will give you the opportunity for an early review or evaluation — and tie that to a raise. I’ve found over the course of my career — that often it’s not the starting salary that matters but the opportunity for advancement later on.
Good luck with your negotiation.
All the Best,
Chandlee
Hi Susan, thank you for your reply, really appreciate it!i forgot to mention that 1 week after the 2nd interview i made my first follow up call because during the 2 nd interview which was actually not an actual interview, it was seeing the workplace and introducing me to some staff i would be dealing with “if i will be hired” . He mentioned during that time that if i have questions i may just want to phone them. So last week that was the 2nd time i made the follow up call and told me to expect a call early this week. I was thinking it would be too much to made a 3rd follow up call. I really wanted the job :((
I was interviewed 2x in this company and after 2 weeks i followed up with the status of the position, they say that the position is still under the approval of higher management, i gave a word to them i could wait for another two weeks and they sounded happy about it. I cheked again with them aftr a week of any progress but said it was still on the same status but said that after a week i should expect a call. A week have passed and havent heard of them still. Im worried Im not getting the job. I hope they should say something.
Hi Drew0819,
Since it has been a week since your last contact and since this is the last week before that 2 weeks you could wait is over (yes?), I would contact them again to see what the status of the job is.
In the future, I recommend being very careful about giving employers deadlines that aren’t real. A “real” deadline is when you have another offer that you need to accept or reject by a specific date. Wanting an offer within 2 weeks is not a real deadline because you’ll still be available after those 2 weeks are over.
A job seeker’s deadline won’t often motivate an employer to hurry through their process (whatever it is), and the job seeker can end up with a little “egg on their face” if they are still interested and available after the deadline has passed. That may be the situation you have here, if I understood your narrative correctly.
I hope this works out for you!
Good luck!
Susan
It’s hard to believe but 6+ months after I left my comments here about being “stuck in the waiting game”, I was FINALLY called back by the company for an interview yesterday. Let’s hope this time it would be smooth…
Good luck, Erin!
So, here’s my issue…
I was actually scouted by a manager from a large retail clothing store who found me working at my current job that is full time. She asked me to come in and interview, so I did…needless to say the first interview went well. They got me into a second interview within two days when the store manager was available. I interviewed with her and I asked her if I would be a good fit. She said I was a perfect candidate and she even wanted to consider me as a assistant manager if there was an opening for it. The position was not a full time position but the store manager told me she was willing to work and get me my current salary along with close to full time hours, she even said that she would try to get me the benefits…I would be leaving my current job for this one because of the many opportunities involved with it. She really liked me and said that the HR manager was off the next day but to expect a call around Thursday…well, Thursday came and went and so did today, Friday…the job listing is now removed from the website…should I give them a call? Or should I continue to just keep waiting?
Advice please?
Thanks!
Hi Lawren,
My guess is that it really is a part-time job, and that the store manager was unable to get you nearly full-time hours, benefits, and the other things she mentioned because it really is a part-time job..
If you have an email address for the store manager, send her an email. Thank her for her interest and time. Tell her you enjoyed meeting her, and would be happy to talk with her again in the future. If you don’t have an email address, you could call and say the same thing.
I would stay in touch, but definitely not give up my current job. Perhaps a genuine full-time job will develop soon at this store, or perhaps, develop at another branch of it, if it is a chain..
Good luck!
Susan
Check in with them but in your mind, MOVE ON. You will only cause yourself pain by hanging on emotionally. I know. It took me almost 2 years to get hired. When they wanted me, I knew it and they knew it and it happened. Without pain. Best of luck to you. Persevere in general, you will get employed.
Had first interview on Wednesday, Dec 14, 2011. The second interview was on Friday, Jan 6, 2012. I sent thank you notes for each round of interviews and telephoned on Wednesday, Jan 11, 2012 to see if they made a final decision. I was told that she had been out of the office for a few days and I would hear from her by the end of the week. Needless to say I didn’t hear anything. Should I call again or move on?
Hi Allie,
If she had been out of the office for a few days, she probably has many things to catch up on, and filling this job is not her highest priority yet. If you haven’t heard by Tuesday, I’d check in again.
I concur with Debbie and your own instinct. Maybe this will work out for you, and maybe it won’t. But, continue looking so if you don’t get an answer you won’t have lost much time.
Good luck!
Hi,
I’m in sort of a similar situation and am not sure what to do. I interviewed for a job a few weeks ago, and had a second interview on Nov. 24th. The second intervew went really well, I met with everyone I would be working with, and was there for about 2.5 hours. The hiring manager told me it was between myself and one other candidate, who had come in earlier that day for her second interview. I did a test with HR, and the HR rep said it would take 3-5 business days to run a background check, so he said I should get a call by the end of the following week. Unfortunately, I never specifically asked the hiring manager when he would let me know their decision.
I sent a thank you/follow up email that evening, just thanking them for their time, and clarifying one question they had, and now I’ve been waiting. Since my interview was on the Wednesday before thanksgiving, I figured the background check timeline may have been thrown off a bit, so I have been waiting patiently. Now it has been ten days since the interview, and I haven’t heard anything back. Is it too soon to ask about their decision? What should I say in the email? Would it be annoying to email the hiring manager and ask when they would be making their decision, since I never technically asked him?
I am mostly concerned because I am now out of a job, and this job opportunity is in a new field for me. I really really want this job, so I am hesitant to apply for other jobs in my current field as a nanny because I know I could get one of these jobs very easily, but I’d really like the new job(it pays a lot more and is more secure).
Any advice would be very appreciated!
Thanks!!!
Try to move on. You may be selected and you may not. It is very difficult to feel that such things are so outside your control. But they are. No matter what happens, try not to let it affect your belief in yourself. And don’t ever get trapped into thinking that this job is the be all and end all and your life will be ruined if you don’t get it. Believe me, I’ve been there and done that.
Kelly,
Best of luck in this time anxious time looking for a job. You may want to wait a few more days to hear back from the employer. If you don;t hear within a couple days you may want to call or send a quick e-mail checking on the status. Don’t take the follow up as an opportunity to clarify answers, just express your desire for the position and check on the progress.
– The Work Coach Cafe Team
Hi,
I’m having a tricky time trying to work out what to do. I have had a second interview for a high level position mid way through last week and I thought the interview went very well. I have also been offered another role for which I needed to accept or decline by the end of last week. In the second interview it was understood (as HR had told the interviewer of my prospective offer) that I would need to be contacted by the close of business on Friday if they wanted to proceed with my application. The interviewer said that she was going to do her best but that there were a number of annual meetings being held over the following few days and that it may be difficult to get all those needed in the decision making process together. I was contacted by the close of the week to be told that they were unable to come back to me as they had not gotten together as yet. I put off the other job offer until this week as I would much prefer the job I am waiting to hear back on. It is now a week from the second interview and i have heard nothing. Knowing that I have another job in the wings I would have thought may have encouraged them to get back to me sooner but it would seem not. I am not sure whether to keep waiting at the risk of annoying or potentially losing out on a position or simply let it go and accept the other offer even though it is less desirable. I cannot work out whether the interview went as well as I thought it had …. on reflection perhaps it didn’t. Should I contact them again or simply leave it be ?
James,
If you feel you have a good relationship with the HR contact, you may want to have a frank conversation explaining your situation and asking for direct feedback on the chances for this job coming through. If you are honest with the employer hopefully they will be honest with you. Please remember, it may be unfortunate but the timeline of the hiring process of the employer may not match the timeline you need. Good luck!
– The Work Coach Cafe Team
I am an experienced professional who has spent the last 2 years interviewing. I would like to save you needless pain and heartache. You are a very lucky person. You have an actual job offer. Accept the job you were offered on the date you said you would give your decision. Call the other job and tell them exactly what you are going to do, that you understand their situation and even sympathize but you have had to move ahead on yours. If they want you, they will convene a special meeting any way they can. It is a waste of time to have a discussion with the HR contact. The HR person often has NO control over these things.
Please take this seriously. I have recently found a job (finally!) and I truly truly feel your pain. Don’t lose the job in hand.
Hi,
I am facing the same situation here. I’ve gone through 2nd round of interview and to me, it went pretty well. I followed up with thank you note. However, it’s been a week since I sent the thank you note and I’ve yet to hear anything. During the 2nd interview I was told that I was one of the shortlisted candidate. I logged on to the job application website and noticed that the job status is now “No longer accepting job submission”. The job was advertised since July this year and right after my interview, it is now closed. I am really curious as to whether I will get an offer soon or they’ve already found the right candidate?
I have the same problem: contacted after I sent in my cv for a specific position,told that tha position was filled already but I was fitting another one still active, got phone interview and on site second interview. The interviews were simply perfect this once and I even felt the famous “click” between me and the prospective employer. I was given a clear deadline after which they should have offered me the job, but that date expired and they’re simply silent (don’t even reply to my emails). This is so rude and unprofessional, that I am starting to feel hassled.
Hi Jenny,
I hate to say this to you, but I think it’s probably time to move on – after you make one more try via the phone (email can easily go astray).
You might want to call to see what happened to the job, because email does go astray sometimes. After you tell them your name, remind them who you are – the job you applied for, when and who you interviewed with (both times), and – if possible – something memorable about you (school you attended, former employer, etc.). Then, ask for the status of this job. If it hasn’t been filled, ask about the next steps in the process.
If the job has been filled – and you still are interested in working there – send them a thank you for considering you and for showing your around the place. Then, tell them to keep you in mind for next time. If you are available at that point, you would probably be interested.
If you can’t get through by phone, it may be time to give up. Either their are too mired in their process to get back to you, or it has been filled, in spite of the “click” you felt.
Good luck!
Susan
Hi,
I have a question, I just had two interviews yesterday, with two different companies company A said their training will start until june and company B said their training will start april 30th … With that said, my first choice is company A, but not sure if I should email them and check if I got the job.. The last thing I want is to go with company B and then get a call from the other company…I don’t know what to do!?! Please advice..
Thanks
Hi Isabel,
If you interviewed with two companies, wait until you get an offer before you take yourself out of consideration for any job. If you get a job offer from your first choice company, call the second choice company to follow-up — ask what your status is, and then let them know that you have another offer and need to let them know by _______ date.
You may want wait to see if you got that second offer before you accept the other one — sometimes the salary or benefit options can be much better at one employer than another.
Good luck!
Chandlee
Thank you so much! I’ll keep that in mind for
Future interviews. But hopefully there won’t be
Any! Thanks again Work Coach Cafe 🙂
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Ima make this as easy as possible. Any thoughts will help! 🙂
On the 16th of this month I had a highly successful interview with the
[company name] manager in Elk Grove, CA. He said that the next person to
Interview me was coming back from vacation on the 17th. I waited a full
Week to call the manager I had a 2nd interview with and he told me to
Hold tight and that he’s been busy opening the new location in Lodi, CA.
He also reassured me that he handed him all my paperwork for him to give
Me a call back. Being that he just came from vacation and is Opening a new location,
Guess I’m just being impatient. Plus, they are closed on Sundays. Which means
Today is the 8th official business day. Google said to wait at least 10 business days…
Since the person that i had a 2nd interview with is going to be my direct manager, I’m
Still confident that I have a great chance. It’s just that like the rest of us, I wish that I would
Just get the call!
Once again, any thoughts Would be highly appreciated
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Wok,
Yes, it is tough to be patient but it seems like things are moving forward for you. We suggest that before you leave an interview to ask what the next steps are and when would be proper time to follow up with a call or e-mail. In general a two weeks is reasonable time unless the employer has indicated otherwise.
Good luck!
Similar scenario here, I went through an initial interview and was nervous but got a great reception from HR. Came in for a second interview and did not hear back. I waited for almost 2 weeks and noticed paperwork from the background check and such were being mailed to me (which at least let me know I was a serious contender). I called HR to follow up and she said that they had filled the position through internal and external postings but that in another week they would be sure to start contacting more candidates and I could receive a call? I’m a bit confused, but decided to just resume my job search. I hope this particular company really does call me back, and she didn’t seem bothered by the call, she said it showed I was serious.
I was silently recruited for a position, indicated my interested and then submitted the application at the appropriate time. I waited for almost 4 months for a response and then I received a phone call interview which lasted for 45 minutes and contained an apology for the delay. I was scheduled for a face to face interview with 3 folks face to face and 2 on the phone. I thought I did extremely well. At the end of the interview, the lead person apologized again for the time it took for me to get here, said there was one other candidate but if I could just hang in with them, they would get back to me by the following Wednesday or so. It is only Friday now.
I am planning to just WAIT. I believe that these inquiries about “do you need any more information” are pretty bogus. If you’re going to write something, ask politely what is happening, although I don’t think that’s helpful either due to the information on what can happen behind the scenes after an interview. Do you want to risk nagging them or showing your anxiety? Do you believe in yourself or not? If they want you, you will hear from them. There won’t be some little piece of information that you can supply that will grease the wheels. If they don’t want you, you will either hear from them eventually or never hear from them.
And this stuff about sending thank you’s right after after the interview. I thoroughly thanked the committee as I was leaving. I let them know how much I appreciated their time. You need to use your judgement here. Maybe a letter would nice if there was a quick revolving door between candidates and you didn’t have a chance to give that personal thank you.
Just my thoughts, folks. I’m sitting here shivering as well. Reading these other posts is comforting. I wanted to share my perspective ’cause I’m a little tired of this standard advice. Waiting is hard and we have to find a way to survive it.
Debbie – Thank you for your thoughts. We must say, four months to wait for an interview, wow!?!!? We always say that every situation is different, thank you for sharing.
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Thanks for having a place to share. I found out the agency is going through a reorganization which is why they were and are so slow. I still maintain that contacting them every few weeks is more to comfort oneself than to advance one’s cause. I believe if someone is going to hire you, they will. All candidates are serious, especially if they go through an interview. It’s painful, absolutely but it’s also an opportunity to evolve: how to learn patience, how to let go of the need to control, how to be comfortable with who you are and that you’re putting out your best efforts, how to handle disappointment and find what’s important in life other than the job hunt… That kind of stuff. Again, just my 2 cents!
Btw, sorry if I had made more than a few typos on the above message. I am typing on my smartphone and couldn’t edit my message very efficiently.
In addition, I actually did NOT apply for this role. I applied to another role within that company and was called to ask if I would be interested in this role as well. There were also no official job description/job ad/public job posting for the role I interviewed for, even when I asked the HR manager on my 2nd interview.
Erin,
The typos are not a problem. Your case shows how many different factors come in play for the hiring process. It is hard to land your first job with a new degree. Good for you for being flexible, working with the interviewers, sending thank you notes and requesting feedback from them. Though you have been through many hurdles, the hiring schedule at the company does not always match the your schedule. Waiting is tough, even agonizing at times….hope it all works out great for you!
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The HR manager got back to me today saying that the position has been put on hold. 🙁
I guess it is not much of a surprise after all given what’s on the financial news today–possible credit for the French Gov and financial institutions… And I am interviewing with a French bank…
Credit “downgrade”… I mean.
And to be honest, this is the 3rd time I have had a position “put on hold”…
Btw, my parents are skeptic and think the company just doesn’t want me and want to hire someone else by saying “the position is put on hold”. I can’t understand why a company would do that though.
Dear Ronnie Ann, what is your view on that? How often would a company/headhunter use the “position is on hold” as an excuse for not considering a candidate?
Erin,
Do not take a company putting a position or req on hold as a rejection of you as a candidate. It is very common for hiring to placed on hold as markets and business fluctuate. Hang in there for good news soon.
– The Work Coach Cafe Team
Dear Ronnie Ann,
Let me share with you my (long) story and please let me know how you see this situation–
I had my first interview for this “job of my dream” with the hiring line manager (a Dept head) on Jun 30th. During the interview, I felt that the dynamics were really good and I was really able to make a impression with the line manager.
After the interview, my positive feelings were quickly confirmed as I was called on the following day for a 2nd interview, which was scheduled on the next business day. That time, I was to meet with the HR manager. While the HR manager did ask me a question regarding how I would be still capable of the role, despite, in her views, not having enough direct experience for the role, I felt that she was generally happy with how I did and the experience was positive overall.
The HR manager then told me that if I was to be shortlisted, I should expect a call within that week (on or before Jul 9th that was; and the 4th was not a holiday in where I live.) for a final interview with the Regional Head. I then send her a thank-you note in email (I did not send one to the Dept Head since the company called me back so soon–before I finish thinking about how to write it! Yet my note to the HR included my thanks to the Dept Head as well). The HR manager did not reply to my note.
And so I waited and waited… Until the 12th, when I finally accepted that I probably did not get the job, I decided to send them (both the Dept Head and the HR manager) a very nice letter thanking them for the interviews and politely asked them for feedback on what might be the areas that I did not do well enough–just as my own reference.
Why I send the letter: I was a young Master degree graduate looking for my first entry level job in a new industry, and I felt the Dept Head would be willing to reply–he was an alumni from my college and he had shared some points on how fresh grad/entry level candidates should behave…etc.
Then there came the surprise: I was emailed back by the HR manager and that she “clarifies” to me that she did not mention “within that week”. Instead, they were looking to give me a reply by Jul 19, two weeks after my 2nd interview.
I then emailed her back to thank her for her clarification and tell her that I look forward to hearing from her.
Then on the 19th, WITHOUT following up, I received an email from the HR manager that they still don’t have a conclusion yet and that she would give me an answer either on the 25th or 26th. I then thanked her for the update and said I look forward to that.
I waited until 5pm on the 26th and I still hadn’t heard anything. Then I thought, why not be more proactive instead? I then picked up a phone and called the HR manager (their normal business was until 6:30pm in the afternoon). She told me that the business line had not give them a reply on their decision, and she was chasing them too. The Dept Head, whom I had interviewed with, had lots of meetings and a business trips recently. She then said she aimed to reply me on the following Friday (Jul 29 that was), but I could hear that she wasn’t so sure. She also asked me if I had any concern, and I said no, other than that I really that opportunity.
On the 28th, I sent another email to the Dept Head, said I learned from HR that he had been out of town and he hasn’t decide on the candidates yet. I then reiterated my interest in his role and briefly recapped on my ability to help his team, also on how I appreciated his talking of “career building” during the interview and I was keen to develop my career with his company.
He quickly replied me with a short email that thanked me for following up, explained that he was in the process of reviewing with the senior management, and that he hoped to give me a reply by “next week”. (Week of Aug 4th)
I did not reply to that email. I felt that he would probably be too busy for another empty “thank you & look forward” email.
So I waited and waited… And until today I still had not hear back from them. I felt that since I did not answer to the last email from the Dept Head, I could maybe wait a few more days until 2 full weeks had gone to send them 1 last email: that I appreciate their kind replies throughout this period (knowing that they are busy) and I just want to remind them and I am still available if they are still looking for someone.
Yet honestly, I think I can no longer think anymore because this wait is driving me crazy!
Please help me by sharing your thoughts on this. Do you think I am still in the running? What course of action do you suggest?
Thank you very much!
Best,
Erin
Hello,
I have a question. I went on two interviews for a position. The first interview went great and she set up my second interview right on the spot. The second interview went well too with the Director. The next day (Tuesday) I received a phone call from a lady in HR that wanted to know my previous salary. She said that she had to submit to the compensation department. It has not been two days and I have heard NOTHING. I am starting to panic. I really want this job and everything has been going well up until the last days when I have heard nothing at all.
What are your thoughts on this?
Joe,
Try to hang in there. Though you are anxious and excited sometimes it takes a while for a company to get answers internally and to make decisions. There is not too much you can do but wait. Hope you hear real soon!
– The Work Coach Cafe Team
Hello, I had my second job interview yesterday but im still nervous because the employer told me that they still had a couple more interviews and that she would call me but she said the interview went very very well. She smiled at me the whole time. I just really need a job would it be bad to call her so soon or should I wait.
Valencia,
The employer may need to go through the process of interviewing certain candidates before making a final decision. If the employer said they have more interviews and will get back to you, waiting may be the best.
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Hi. I interviewed for a job two weeks ago. They were phone interviews and they went really well. Two were on July 6th and one was on July 7th. The ones on the 6th were with the hiring manager and then a direct report. The one on the 7th was with another direct report. On Friday of that same week, the 8th, I received an email from the hiring manager that it was down to me and another candidate. He asked when I would be able to start if I was offered the job and for my references. On Wednesday of last week, the 13th, two of my references contacted me to tell me they had been contacted by the hiring manager. One of my references told me that the hiring manager said that things are looking very good for me. Very encouraging. Today is July 19th and I haven’t heard anything back from either the hiring manager or HR. How long should I give it before I contact the hiring manager to make in inquiry?
ILG,
The dreaded waiting game… Sounds like things are progressing for you, maybe just not as fast as you would like. Hope it all goes well. You may want to look at some other Work Coach Cafe posts to see what others have done in similar situations.
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I applied for a position at a Private Practice Office for two psychiatrists as a receptionist/office assistant. I had my 1st interview last Friday and my my second interview was on Monday of this week. I have not heard from them at all and is worrying me because they said that they needed someone ASAP because their current receptionist was leaving. I sent a thank you letter already and now I am just nervously and anxiously waiting. How long should I wait for the call before I lose all hope? I am a college student studying psychology, this job would have been the best opportunity for me to get some experience in the field. It is so difficult to find a similar position. I have looked everywhere to see if I can find a similar position but have found nothing.
Dani,
It may be taking longer for them to make a decision then planned. As a student you have many options to get experience in the field. You may want to think about an internship or even better a paid internship. Good luck!
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Hi,
So, at this moment, less is more?
Jin
Jin,
We can’t provide personal advice for each situation, you need to evaluate what is best for you. Hopefully this site can help you make the decision!
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Dear Ronnie,
Adding to my 1st message, I would like to ask should I applied the job that the company posted on Jobstreet last Friday, 24-Jun-11? That job is in fact what they were interviewed me for.
I just would like to let them know how I like the job.
Oh ya, I did send them thank you after the interview too. But I am not sure it this reach to the interviewer and I don’t have their email address. So I checked it out and send them a thank you note too?
Thank you.
Warmest regards,
Jin
Hi Ginger Jin!
I love that you are so eager and want to do everything right. Sounds like you had a very good interview.
But I also want to tell you something that I hope will help you in the future. While a thank you note to each person is a very nice thing (a handwritten one can be well-received) and a polite follow-up about two weeks later is totally fine, it can hurt your chances to keep calling and contacting them so much. And to keep asking them for a date as to when you will hear back can actually work against you. It may make you seem too pushy and desperate. It would have been ok to ask when YOU may call to check in, but now…let that need-to-know go. 😉 Maybe this will help for next time, just in case this doesn’t work out. (I hope it still does).
It’s not unusual for a job to be reposted. It may mean they aren’t quite sure or they may just keep running it to see what they get. Of course it may mean they didn’t find the match they want, but no way to know for sure. At this point for your sake, less is more. Maybe one polite SHORT e-mail to the interviewer saying you are still interested and asking if there is anything else you can provide would be ok. But no mention of dates or anything else. OK? These things take time and you have to show you have patience.
Meanwhile, please keep applying for other jobs. The best way to wait is to take action for yourself that may open up an even better opportunity than you can imagine.
I wish you MUCH luck!
Thanks Ronnie,
Just like you said ” The best way to wait is to take action”, I thought the same too.
Thank you.
Regards,
Jin
My pleasure. 😉
Hello Ronnie,
I hope this message find you well.
I wrote to you weeks back. Since then, I was waiting patiently for news from this company and at the same time, I looked for others job.
There wasn’t any news from them at all, but I just wanted so much to get this job so I sent the HR Exec (who arranged an interview with me from the company) a mail on 17-Jul-11 (which was exactly a month after my 2nd interview with them) to check out if I am shortlisted. Well, the answer from her was that I am not their shortlisted candidates. I am disappointed but I still replied her politely and said : “I am sorry to hear that. But that was my pleasure to have the interview opportunity and get to learn about your company.
I would like to still show my interest in your company and ask for another opportunity should there be any.”
So, I thought the vacancies were filled.
Well, after few days, which is today 25-Jul-11, out of curiosity, I just google about this company again, and I found out they re-post the same job on 17-Jul-11. Well, what I did was that, I applied the job again online.
I would like to seek your advise, is that alright for me to write an email to the HR Exec to find out what in fact put me down from their list. I think I was doing quite well that day, well, for them, I might be not good enough, so I would like to know what was that “not good enough”.
And after the interview, I was all the while, following up/in contact only with the HR Exec, should I write a mail to the Manager who interviewed me on that? I don’t have the manager’s email but I think I could just find out. If that a proper way?
I am looking forward to your reply.
Thanking you in advance.
Cheers,
Jin
Jin,
Wow, you have been put through a great deal. Good for you that stayed positive in your response to the company. Yes, there is nothing wrong with seeing if the position has been re-posted and you can be considered as a candidate. Stay positive and polite and hope for the best!
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Hello Ronnie,
I hope this message find you well.
I am from Malaysia and found your website by google on the question of “what should i do after 2nd interview”. I would like to seek your advise. I have similar situation like VL from Taiwan has.
I was called by a headhunter company said that they found my CV on Jobstreet which matched their client’s requirement. She will give my resume to her client and let her client called me. That was a Friday. On the next following week, Monday, the HR from that company called me for an interview. And the appointment was fixed on the coming Friday9:15am.
On the interview day, I was there at 9:15am, met up with the HR, she briefed me about the company and interviewer that I am going to meet. About half an hour later, the interviewers came in to the room. There were 4 of them, a manger and 3 team leaders. They asked me all sort of questions and about my experience. I would said that the whole interviewing process was smooth. When it is almost came to an end, the manager told me that she likes the way I presented myself and told me that if I am shortlisted, will be called for 2nd interview and sit for an English assessment. But immediately after she walked out the room, she called the Chief Operation, her boss, to meet me for an interview. The 2nd interview was conducted by the Chief Operation who came from America, we have about 10 mins conversation. I saw he smile when I talked about their company value and I told them that I like that very much and that is a company that I am looking for. I believe that is a good sign.
After second interview, I sat for the English assessment. About an hour later, I am done and left the company at about 12pm. The HR told me that they need some time to process before they confirmed who will be the candidate. So, I asked her when would be the date that possible to notify me. Next Friday? She said no, then week after? She said maybe.
Well, the actual date that I went for an interview was on 17-Jun-11, and I asked her if that is possible for me to know on 24-Jun-11? She said no, then I asked maybe another week? She said maybe, so I give her a call on 27-Jun-11, today, but she said the process might take longer time. She ask me to wait but she couldn’t told me until when I should wait for, probably another 2 weeks or longer. At the same time, on 24-Jun-11, I saw this company advertise on Jobstreet the job that I applied for.
I am wondering, am I still has the chance? Why are they advertise? Does it mean that those candidates that they interviewed before the advertisement date wasn’t meet their requirement?
I really wish that I have this job. Could you give me some advise?
Thank you.
Warmest regards,
Jin
Hi ruru!
Congratulations on getting this far. Hope you have some good news soon. 😉
These things almost always take longer than anyone thinks they will. At this point, I would probably give them until next week before calling her in the office. (You’re right about that.)
Good luck!
Dont I know it! lol! Unemployment sucks! Especially when most of your friends are ahead of you and are happily spending their first salary and you’re left out feeling really bad for yourself. I know the trick is not to loose hope, but sometimes, your emotions become unmanageable! Thanks so much for your help! I’ll update when she finally calls! More power and god bless!
Hello Ronnie! I came back here to tell you that I finally got the job after almost 4 months of waiting! It just goes to show you that there really are moments like this when all you have to do is keep your chin up and hope for the best! Your forum really helped calm me down for the most part!
Hello! I got to this forum because of the keyword second interview. lol. I hope you can help me out here. I’m sorry for the long intro.
They said nursing is a wonderful career because there are so many opportunities here in America. But because I lack the experience, it’s been one hard lesson after another. My first interview was in March and after that the employer asked me to finish my missing requirements so they could continue with my application. They even gave me the address to complete my requirements and told me to inform the company it was for pre hire. After submitting my requirements, I sent thank you letters and constantly followed up.
Last week, they finally gave me a call and said that they were finally getting around to completing my requirements. They said I might start within the week and HR would just follow up on me. Well… it’s been a week and I dont know what to do! Should I give them another follow up call? Is it too pushy? I want the job, but I dont want to come off as desperate (which, after 6 months of unemployment, is very much true). I wish people wrote a book on etiquette for job interviews! Thank you!
I forgot to add. During my 2nd interview, it was the Nursing Director herself who called and she told me she was using her private cell number. Is that a good sign? Should I follow up on her cell or should I call her office instead? I think it’s more polite if I use her office number.
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Hi Christian!
I understand why this was worrisome, but just know when a notification date is given very often it takes longer than they thought. Of course it might mean someone else got the offer and is deciding (you are probably one of the finalists), but it can also simply mean they haven’t finished putting together the full offer package and need more time.
Try to hang in until next week if you can. If you haven’t heard by Tuesday, a call should be ok.
Good luck!
P.S. If you REALLY can’t stand it, Christian, since you were told you’d hear a few days ago, calling today wouldn’t be awful. 😉
Hello
I recently interview for a union position at a local Hospital. I went through 4 interviews already, starting of with a phone interview, HR interview, interview with director of department and final interview with the same director.
The entire process began beginning of May and I was very hopeful that I actually might get this job. Especially since they already talked about compensation, days of work, showed me the hospital and introduced me to many of the staff. From what i heard from friends, those are all signs that I will get the job.
My last interview for the position was last friday and the director said that she will give me a decision by tuesday morning. I woke up nice and early Tuesday morning but nothing….. Now its thursday and I am very worried that I actually might not get this position.
Also I sent thank you letters everytime I was interviewed but I am thinking about calling tomorrow to see what is up. But I am nervous that maybe that isn’t the best of idea….
What do you think?
Correction- I interviewed with the MD on May 21, 2011– nearly three weeks ago.
Hi SG!
I’m so sorry you’re stuck in the waiting game, but these things have their own timing. So many possible process elements, each one with its own timing and requirements. If it helps, this is totally within the “norm” especially considering a new position is in play.
Have you tried calling? You certainly have been patient enough and a polite call asking where things stand – and if there is anything else they need from you – is appropriate at this point.
I wish you the best of luck. Please let us know how it goes!
I really don’t know what to think.
I interviewed with a big publishing firm on Apr 13, 2011. I heard back from the company (after contacting them twice) after a month (mid May), asking me to come for a meeting with their Managing Director. I met him and the talk went well. Apparently, the fellow I interviewed with suggested my name for this new position. The MD was quite enthusiastic and went on about how this new project would be my baby etc etc. N I could have the other position but he would like me think about the new one. I wrote back (MD and HR person) to thank them for the interview and to say that I was definitely interested. My interview with the MD was on May 24 but haven’t heard back from the company yet.
For my part, I am getting tired of waiting to hear from them. It seems very unprofessional! I was very surprised to hear back from them a second time, considering they contacted me after five weeks. I just don’t want to be sitting around for another five weeks to hear from them again!
Wish I knew what was going on behind the scene. I had my first interview April 15th which I impressed the hiring manager so much he suggested I go for a higher level position that was available at their corporate office. I was flown to their corporate office for my second face-to-face interviews with 2VP’s, 2Directors, and 2HR personnel which included the recruiter who seems to be my biggest supporter. After my interviews, the recruiter gave me a relocation packet along with their company benefits and gave me a tour of the facilities. However, I am still awaiting an offer. As of yesterday, May 12th, I was told they were working on something for me that will involve relocation. However, the position needed approval. My question is should I be concerned. I’m not sure if telling me “they are working on something for me” was a confirmation of an indirect job offer. The recruiter has been very diligent in responding to my e-mails for the last two weeks. Next week will be the 3rd week since my 2nd interviews. I’m not sure whether to start preparing to relocate or just wait until I sign the papers for an offer. I love to know what to do. Thanks in advance.
Hi Waiting is hard!
First…congratulations on doing so well! You must have really wowed them to get suggested for that higher-level job.
In know waiting is really hard, but from what you tell me, everything looks good…although, of course, I have no crystal ball. Putting together a package takes time. There are people who need to be contacted for input and sign-offs at all levels. In fact, since this was a different job you applied for (at their urging) and at a higher level (even more sign-offs), it’s hardly been much time at all considering everything.
Since they’ve been so good at keeping in touch, my guess is you may hear from them this coming week. But, if you haven’t heard by say Thursday, it would be ok to send your main contact a brief e-mail asking of there is anything else they need from you, as I suggested to fingers crossed up above. From what you say…they are most definitely working on it whether you contact them or not. 😉
As for whether to prepare to relocate…I wouldn’t make any commitments, but if it were me, I’d be doing my research and starting to investigate housing options/prices, neighborhoods, what it’s like to live there, etc. just in case. Of course, the company may also have resources to help you, but the more you know about your future home – assuming the offer comes through – the better.
Good luck! Please let us know if/when you get final word of the offer. Looks very good even without that crystal ball.
It has now been almost 4 weeks since I last heard from the company’s internal recruiter. She has not responsed to any of my e-mails or phone messages. I am now wondering if what she told me was legitimate. She started off following up with interest and now nothing. I was preparing to relocate because she made it sound like the position should be approved in a reasonably amount of time. My question is should I reach out to the VP— I interviewed with?
I really don’t know what to advise you, Waiting. Too much I don’t know. These things can take a long time and sometimes too many calls and e-mails can turn a company off.
If it were me, I might send the VP an e-mail asking if there is anything else you can provide (as I suggested above) and reaffirming your strong interest. But of course, this may be considered going above the head of the HR person and wind up looking negative.
Whom did you connect with the most during the process? A short note to that person could be a risk, but maybe at this point you have nothing to lose. 😉 I am not in a position to tell you the right thing to do – only you can decide that. Trust your gut, but keep looking elsewhere! Good luck.
I had a second interview at this company and had to give a presentation. After it was over, the next day they emailed me and said they loved it and basically it was the best they saw all day! How exciting! So Im thinking, awesome I def got it. So I asked when they were looking to make a decision and they said, we are hoping to make a decision Monday, in the mean time I had to send them my referrals and fill out a form with basic info. Monday came and went and I heard nothing. I should also point out that they asked for all the forms to be sent by Mon morning for review. It is tues and my friends are pressuring me to email or call to follow up but I don’t want to be pushy. What if they had a busy day and couldn’t review everything? I have decided to wait to hear back, but then how long should I wait? Let me know what you think, thanks!!!!!
Hi fingers crossed!
You did right waiting. If you’re the top candidate, they haven’t forgotten you. If it’s been a week since they told you you would hear, it’s ok to send a polite note asking if there is anything else they need from you. Hope you’ve heard something by now, but if not…good luck. My fingers are crossed too! 😉
So I have gone through the 2nd interview and found out that I am one of two finalists. Ok, 50/50 shot at the job. That was last Friday. I was told an offer would be made by this Friday (tomorrow). I received an email today – “additional step”. They need to do a background check now.
What are my chances? Do they background check both finalists to help them decide or just the one the offer will be made to?
No guarantees of course, Cheryl, but your chances are very good. Especially considering they mentioned the word offer. Background checks are standard nowadays and, while some companies do checks on more than one person they are considering, most only check the one they really want. Assuming you have a clean background, you should hear something very soon, depending on how quickly they get the results. take some deep breaths, do your best to enjoy your weekend, and hopefully next week will bring the answer. PLEASE let us know. Best of luck, Cheryl!
Hi Sam!
First let me congratulate you on doing so well. And for managing to stay sane during the process. 😉
From what you tell me, things do look hopeful, but at this point all you can do is stay in touch. You might ask if it’s ok to call weekly or would they prefer every two weeks – although I hope it won’t be that much longer!
Meanwhile, hard as it is to think about other jobs, please find at least one or two new ones to apply to ASAP. I’ve heard amazing stories where, while waiting, a great offer popped up. Plus, it keeps you actively looking just in case.
Best of luck, Sam. Please let us know what happens. Fingers crossed for you.
~ Ronnie Ann
Hello,
I had a phone interview with a company on march 08, 2011 they called me for a formal interview everything went well on march 28th they emailed me and wanted to go for a back ground check and references everything came out good on april 4th they wanted to verify my education since it was international they asked for my degree i am in touch with HR and they said that their manager is out of the country and they cannot take such decisions without him they are not giving me any kind of (yes/ No) situation so i can move forward any help or advise will be really appreciated since its bin almost a month after my back ground check and references are made .
Regards
Sam
I had an interview at a company where a former coworker works. He pushed approval for a brand new position since he is in need of much help. I went in for two interviews and was told after the second one that I should hear last week and did not. Up until now HR has been in good correspondence with me and this silence is worrying me. I emailed HR on Friday and called this past Monday and have not received a response. Should I be worried and should I contact this former coworker? I don’t want to risk ruffling any feathers by going behind HR but I do want to know what is going on.
Dear Wishing,
Each case is an individual circumstance. Nowadays almost everyone goes through a background check. Unfortuntely, they take time. In this case, the offer is not a final offer w/o the background check coming back good. If he has nothing in his background to worry about, then it just will take a little more time.
I wish him and you much luck. Fingers crossed for both of you. Please let us know what happens!
~ Ronnie Ann
My husband has been offered a job provided the drug screen come back good …which it did no call back as to start the position yet …He called and asked them today and they said waiting on background check tommorow will be a week since filled out the papers and offer given.My question is what is the likely hood that a job may not take you if they offered you the job ?
This makes little sense to me. I interviewed and was offered a second interview which was on March 17, 2011. That very afternoon they contacted my references. Non of my references were able to return the call until the following Monday, March 20th, 2011. Both my references left messages but have not received a call back from the potential employer.
I called the potential employer who informed me that the decision was to me made on Wednesday the 23rd of March. I also inquired whether a connection had been made with my references I was told “two are calling back” yet they had already called back and left messages. My references tell me the employer has not returned the call. This does not look good to me I am wondering what your thoughts are on why an employer would bother to go to the trouble to initially check references but not follow through? Any thoughts or opinions would be helpful, wish I was a mind reader.
Hi avena!
So happy for you. Wuhooo!!
Thank you for helping people know that waiting can pay off. Smiled at your candy store analogy. Too true.
I wish you all the best. Good luck in your new job!
~ Ronnie Ann
I read this blog about 3 weeks ago while I was waiting for some news from the job position I applied for almost two months ago. I got 2 interviews and the waiting game started… no word for almost 4 weeks after the second interview, almost gave up and then after got the good news. I just wanted to tell everyone out there not to stress out if you don’t get a call after a week or two. The economy is really bad now and employers take longer to hire someone just because they can, there are just too many good candidates… employers are like children in the candy store. Be patient and don’t give up, it may take some time to get the call back. Good luck
These things take time, Tracey. You’ve done all you can…now it’s time to wait. 😉
Meanwhile, you should keep looking because that’s always the smart thing to do. But it does sound hopeful. As for what to do with yourself while you wait: 12 Ways to Stay Sane After a Job Interview
Good luck! Please let us know how it goes.
~ Ronnie Ann
I found your blog, need some feedback! I’m playing the waiting game right now. I’m going to explain how the interview(s) went; would accept your feedback!
I had a phone interview on Jan. 7, 2011. The interviewer asked me many question and about my expected hourly pay ( but told me the they payed will over the amount that I had asking for). After the phone interview, I felt really confident in receiving a call back…I didn’t get the call until Feb 7, 2011!
I was scheduled for a face-to-face interview on the Feb. 11, 2011
My first interview was with the same lady I had the phone interview with on the 7th. She told me that she didn’t have any interview questions for me, because she was happy with the way I answered the phone interview questions on the phone. So she started going over benefits and the perks of working with the company like: health care, dental, vision; retirement plans, tuition reimbursement and remission and etc…
She lead me to a room with two more interviewers, which were the Directors of Operations. They asked a million questions, which I had a million answers too. They were laughing, side glancing and adding feedback to the answers that I had given. One of the interviewers, by accident I believe, stated that I would be working closely with the guy in the front of the office named “Shawn”. I asked all my questions; they had given their answers and a little feedback (extra). Both had given me their business cards.
When I thought it was all done, I was put in another room…waiting for two more interviewers, the Senior Patient Coordinators. Again, a million questions were asked; a millions answers were given. They did the same as the first set of interviews: feedback, side glancing, laughing, and etc…They both apologized for not having business cards, but said it was a pleasure speaking with me; and, they would be seeing me soon.
So I met with the first interviewer and she asked me would I be interested in a tour of their hospital, before the shuttle bus arrives. Of course, I said “YES”. Afterwards, she told me about a 4 part exam that I would have to take.
I took the test, my scores were 92%, 82%, 4500 keystrokes( I got 6515), and a 77%.
I’ve qualified for employment.
I have a friend that got hired back in December 2010, who has been throw the process. She tells me that she talked to one of the ladies that I interviewed with. The lady told her “she was really impressed with me and is ready to make an offer”
I’m in limbo. I don’t know what to do with myself! Should I believe what my friend tells me, or continue to doubt myself? WHAT DO YOU THINK?
If a company isn’t interested and IS NOT going to offer you a job, How long does it typically take for them to tell you?
Hi D Winter!
I totally get why you’re wondering how to handle this. Here’s my take…
Of course, you have to do what feels right to you, but I’d wait and see. Over a year, things can change. And people involved in the process can come and go.
But it wouldn’t hurt to make sure you have some strong answers as to why this job really is what you want and why you’re not over-qualified but instead rightly qualified! 😉 Let them see you as someone with positive energy who will dig into any role with determination and a supportive mindset.
At the very worst, you wind up where you are already. At the best, you get an offer. But in any event, you never know who you might meet or what you might learn in the process. Worth a shot as I see it.
Best of luck, D Winter! Please let us know what happens.
~ Ronnie Ann
got a huge mind screw job here lol. anyways a year ago I had an interview with a company who told me that I was over qualified and that was the end well now I have another interview with the same company a year later should I bother going into this interview or should I just go in and give em hell?
Hi Tara!
My best advice is stop worrying about what you can’t change. Candidates often stress over things that barely phase the interviewers. We are looking for a whole package and nothing you mention would sour that for me. It’s still all about the match. Fingers crossed that this is the one! And since you asked:
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Good luck, Tara! Please let us know what happens.
~ Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Anne,
I wrote you back in July 2008 about battling through the waiting game. In 2008, I waited and finally received a positive outcome. Now, I’m back in the waiting game… hoping for a job offer to come out of this torture.
I interviewed for a job just before Thanksgiving. The hiring committee said that they were interviewing about 20 people for 1 position. I felt that the interview went really well. I had a great vibe with the rest of the panel. They even used “you” instead of “the person hired” when I asked questions.
I came prepared with letters of recommendation, writing samples, my cover letter and resume. The interview went well.
On my drive home, I started to reflect on some of the questions I was asked and thought I could have answered them better. So, when I got home, I decided to write a thank-you email. This may have been a mistake since it was rather lengthy.
I was supposed to hear back from them in “early December” but haven’t had a response. I know I had a lot of competition but believe I’m still in the running for this thing.
Any thoughts? I’d love to have some of that magic pixie dust you gave me last time that helped me land the job I have now.
Thanks for this wonderful website, Ronnie Anne! Thanks to your readers for their tremendous support.
-Tara
First…congratulations on being in this position Danielle. We should all have such enviable choices!
It’s ok to call the about job A if you do it very politely, saying you understand they have to follow procedure but you just want to let them know the situation. Ask what they think you should do and if there is any way to know how likely you are to get the offer. If the person comes off strong about not being pushed (1) simply say you understand and was only trying to keep them informed about changes in your situation; and (2) reconsider working there because it might say something about who they are!
Of course, don’t tell anyone you would gladly leave job B if and when job A comes through. In the meantime, look closely at the new job in your current company and see if there is something there you might indeed want after all – just in case. 😉
Good luck, Danielle! Please let us know what happens. I will simply hope you get the job that is truly best for you!
~ Ronnie Ann
So I still haven’t heard anything back yet about a decision after I sent my email clearing up the 6 month misunderstanding. I did confirm that the HR lady received it and forwarded it to the department, but that’s all. I know I will be contacted either way once the position is filled, so I still have a chance, I’m just kind of under the gun with another position and looking for some advice.
I have an interview this afternoon for an internal transfer to a full time position at the business I am currently working part time at. I don’t want to work here, although the pay is good and the benefits are okay. I’ve been told by my current supervisor that I’m pretty much assured I’ll get the position, which is scheduled for a start date of 8/9.
My question is, if I’m offered this job in the next couple of days, before I hear from the other position (we’ll call it job A), which I would much rather be at, should I call them and let them know that I have until such and such a date to make a decision? I know sometimes a job offer can provide leverage, but at the same time, even if job A takes until mid-month to make a decision, I’m willing to quit job B even after I’ve started at job A, so I don’t want to push them into saying no either…
Hi Danielle! What a great story…with what I hope will be a very happy ending. Another reason why good communication is so important. I can only imagine your face when you read that e-mail while knowing how hard you had tried to stay in touch! PLEASE do keep us posted. BEST of luck!!
Oh Jennifer! Another great story. (Hoping for lots more like this. 😉 ) Especially nice that you didn’t have to wait long after that breakfast interview. CONGRATULATIONS!! And of course…good luck in your new job.
Thanks to both of you for letting us know. Fingers remain crossed for you Danielle! (And for everyone else. Hmmm…may need to borrow some extra fingers.)
~ Ronnie Ann
Ronnie Ann, I posted on July 13th about my impending breakfast interview. Well had the interview Friday morning and got the job offer this afternoon! I consider it a huge success, especially since they offered me more than their stated firm salary when applying! Thanks so much!
Ahhhh… just found out that apparently the wires got WAY crossed at my last interview 3 weeks ago– they came out with the understanding that I only wanted to work there for 6 months… Imagine my surprise when I got an email today from the recruiter saying that they were still interested in me, but “concerned about my commitment to the position.” WHAT?? I’ve been emailing them like crazy asking for updates, and I’m looking for employment that will last multiple years… I don’t even know HOW they could have gotten that confused. Wondering if some other candidate might have said it and it got jumbled in someone’s mind.
I’m so glad that I got the chance to clear this confusion up, but it scares the heck out of me that something so stupid could have lost me my dream job. On the other hand, now I’m fairly confident that I’ll get an offer, considering that if I was even an option still with that on my application that they must really want me. Hoping to get all this cleared up after a phone call tomorrow… I’ll let you know if it all works out.
Very cool. I love Plan Bs, Danielle!! If everyone could have a good Plan B, it would take away the Angst (my word of the day 😉 ).
Either way, looks like good luck is coming for you. Can’t wait to hear what happens. Best of luck!
~ Ronnie Ann
I hope you are right! Good news at least from my current employer- I found a full time job that I can transfer to starting 8/9, so that gives me enough time to get closure with this job I really want, while allowing me not to freak out about needing to have employment. So I’m going to plan on plan B, and hope for plan A…. I’ll keep ya posted 🙂
Mallory…I think you did exactly the right thing. You waited patiently and now are politely checking in. Just remember…even if they targeted you for this other job and you’re at the top of their list, many times a company has to interview other candidates to show they followed form. That takes time. Still very hopeful you’ll be getting good news in the near future. Will do a happy dance with you on that day. 😉
All my best! ~ Ronnie Ann
Hi Danielle! Sorry to disappoint you but you may very well still be in the running for the job. 😉 If things are delayed – for vacations, internal org shifts, last-minute project emergencies, etc. – that could add at least a few weeks. (If you’ve been reading this blog, you may remember I once waited months as the TOP candidate.)
Even if a person is leaving, sometimes the company just has to live with the gap. If you can focus your mind on AUGUST rather than July, you might get a pleasant surprise. Please keep us posted.
Good luck!!!
~ Ronnie Ann
I just sent the HR rep a polite inquiry into my status, I figure 2 weeks after interviewing for a job THEY recommended for me is long enough to wait for an update. Although, I am a little nervous for the response. I’ll be crushed if I’m told it’s been filled, but according to the online application status I’m still in the “in process” status, which of course is better than the dreaded “not selected,” but still I need something a bit more concrete. A little information is all it takes to keep me sane.
Ugh, do you think it’s still possible that I could get this job? I had my first interview 6/18. Monday morning by noon I had a request for a 2nd interview, which I had on 6/24. No word since then unless I initiated it, and all I’ve gotten was an email on 7/1 that confirmed I was a top candidate and that it would be another 1-2 weeks, and then an email on 7/9 that said that they were finalizing the recruitment and were delayed in regards to the start date. The job was supposed to start 7/12 or 7/19, and I know the current person’s last day was supposed to be 8/3, so I don’t really know how far they can push it back. At this point I’m assuming I didn’t get it, but since I had a second interview and it’s such a large and reputable company, I’d expect a formal denial at least….
Mallory…fingers still crossed for you. 😉
Irina…there’s no reason an even better job won’t come along…or at least one that’s a great fit. As for making them wait…better in the mind than in reality. 😉 Good luck! Please keep us posted.
Jennifer: This all sounds really positive! Yes…sometimes offers are made in person. And sometimes a final interview is scheduled just so everyone can sign off on the offer that will be made at another time. No way to know at this point which it is, but all you have to do is continue as you’ve been doing. Looks like there may be a match. Please let us know, Jennifer. LOVE hearing good news!
~ Ronnie Ann
Ronnie Ann,
I have been pouring over this website trying to find a similar situation. I am set to go on a third interview Friday morning. This is a breakfast interview. My first interview was with the vice president of the department I would be working in. The second was with the CEO, vice president from first interview and one of my potential team members. They both were pretty formal. I have already found out that they have called my references. My references let me know that the woman on the phone sounded very happy to hear about me. Anyways the third interview is with the vice president and team member present at the second interview, as well as the employee who was not present( she was not at second interview, on vacation). I also signed the necessary papers for credit, background check as well as received the employee handbook. What is your read on the situation? Are offers given in person sometimes?
Thanks Ronnie Ann, I suppose I will move on with job hunt. There’s not much else I can do. I would hope that they would at least have the decency to let me know if the position was filled but I do understand that I may not even get that. If thy do call me out of the blue one day, I hope that I’ll be in a position to make them wait and possibly even negotiate a higher salary. Best of luck to every one else. Thanks again Ronnie for all your help!
Ah ok..I guess I was wondering about that too, when the checking process actually happens, so it makes sense to not jump into that task until everything else is set into place. I don’t know how big the HR department is, but everything thus far has been done through it for sure. I was surprised at the beginning of my 2nd interview that the manager even gave me a glimpse into how I did the first time around with “you’re most interesting to us” and the other positive feedback. My contacts are pretty great so I know at least the one at the top, who is also my most recent supervisor, will let me know if and when he’s contacted. Ok, thanks for the info, every bit that I find out helps make things easier.
Hi Danielle! First congratulations on being told you’re top candidate. No, it’s not the same as a job offer, but it tells you that you did really well and have a strong chance. If you’ve been told they still need a week or two, give them the full week before calling your recruiter again. Calling directly when you go through a recruiter can be awkward, so I’d wait until the middle of this coming week and call the recruiter again. This is not long at all!!
Maybe if it drags on another week or two, you can come up with something to mention to the potential supervisor – or simply a very polite e-mail saying something like “Hope you are doing well. Just want you to know I’m still very interested in the job and hoping to hear good news.” But for now…wait. Think of the recruiting process time as dog years – one week in our time can be many weeks in their time. 😉 And no matter what they say about when they want someone to start – that’s a preferred not hard date. Many companies prefer to be sure rather than leap just to meet a projected hiring deadline. I know it’s tough, but it will take as long as it will take. Really…this is totally normal. Good luck, Danielle!! Please let us know what happens.
Hi Tiara! This is great news. I’m so happy for you. Obviously you impressed them. Good luck with your new residency!
You’re right…it pays to call when you’ve waited a few weeks and haven’t heard anything. But as in Danielle’s case, when there’s a recruiter involved, you have to kind of judge for yourself whether it’s ok to go what might be considered “around” him or her. In her case, I’d still wait…but stay in touch with the recruiter. And if that doesn’t work..and you’ve given it a few weeks from the last contact/information you received…then you probably have nothing to lose with a call.
I’m so sorry Irina that the wait continues and you feel trapped behind this recruiter. The wall is especially high since the job starts as a 3-month contract through them. So all you can do is look for your own opportunities if you really do want to move on. Or do your best at your current job – maybe even surprising someone with a great solution or idea – and see what happens. Yes…the recruiter started it and it may yet have a very happy ending. But for now, you can do nothing other than let it sit as a big maybe. This really is the way it happens sometimes – as unstructured and “in the dark” as it feels. You’ll know soon enough. In the meantime, maybe try to put it on the back burner and get on with what you can control! The recruiter created this possibility…but we create our own worrying. 😉
Mallory… reference checking can be done in various ways. If I’m given a list, I try to check at least 3 of them, but if the one at the top is not the latest employer, I try to get that first. But I don’t do any checking at all until the sign-offs from all required departments have happened, and sometimes this alone can take a week or more. Plus…in the summer, things can slow down because of vacation time. So…sorry to say…the only thing to do is still…wait. I know. But at least it’s getting closer. 😉
~ Ronnie Ann
Ronnie Ann, do you think that companies actually check every single reference an applicant provides? How common is it that they just don’t bother? So as I’ve said a few days ago I had a 2nd interview with this company and I got some really positive feedback, but yesterday I asked one of my references if he had been contacted yet and he said no, he’s the reference at the top of my list. What do you think that means?
So, I spoke with the recruiter yesterday and she was out of town last week. She still has no update for me. She doesn’t have any feedback either. She told me she left a couple of messages and we just have to wait. So, I asked her if I could please contact them just to get a status update and she said no and that it’s not professional. Its been 3 weeks since my interview that I thought went really well and now I’m just in the dark. Although the recruiter found this position for me, at this point I wish she hadn’t because I could have spared myself a lot of stress and worrying. I can’t even explain my frustration without rambling. I was thinking positively but it’s difficult to stay positive when I haven’t heard anything. Also, I asked the recruiter if she received my emails and she said she hasn’t gone through them…maybe she hasn’t gone through emails from the company either. I want to move on with my search and hope that this happened for the best but this lingering thought is in my head that I need to know…not that it has to be tell me now but tell me something substantial. If they told me now they’re making a decision in a month, that’s fine too but I hate being kept in the dark.
Gee Tiara that’s awesome! Congratulations for sure! That’s almost like what happened to me, although I still haven’t heard from them but my 2nd interview was this past Friday afternoon before a long weekend so I’m still pretty optimistic.
Danielle, I don’t know, if the HR rep told you it could take up to 2 weeks and it’s only been a week since, I think I would wait at least another couple of days. I know it’s torture, trust me. My biggest fear is making a pest out of myself with HR and I don’t think I would contact my potential manager, just the thought of what he might think if I did that gives me the willies. But think of it this way, at least you have a time frame, if I was told it would be 2 weeks before anything gets done after my interview I’d be able to relax about it a little because I’d at least know that it’s not a problem with me or they just gave it someone else and didn’t tell me. I was surprised at how open the manager and a few other staff members were with the positive feedback at the beginning of my 2nd interview, I mean the manager told me I’m most interesting to him but he still gave me no indication as to when I’d hear back and I couldn’t ask because I didn’t think that would sound very good. Like if he didn’t offer the information there must have been a reason. But for me, if I go 2 weeks without hearing anything I’ll definitely contact HR.
Hello again! I wanted to thank you for motivating me to call them and to have more determination. When I called the hiring manager I was told what I had been waiting to hear. “You most likely will not be getting a call” Then they proceded to tell me that I should apply for another residency that they were hiring for. I applied that day and recieved two emails that night to let me know that I was being considered. I had the most wonderful interview ever and then recieved a “congradulations” phone call right before the 4th of July weekend!! I start next month. I just wanted to let others know that sometimes if you havent gotten an answer it is a good idea to call. I am so happy!(=
Still no news from my job. The only contact I have gotten back from them was last Thursday. After emailing and calling the one HR rep, I emailed the original recruiter I spoke with and she said she confirmed that I was a top candidate and that it would take another 1-2 weeks to make a final decision. Now it’s 1 week later and a full 2 weeks after my last interview with them. Wondering if I should maybe try contacting my potential supervisor to follow up with her? I did send her a thank you email right after the interview, but nothing since then. I don’t want to be bothersome checking in too much, but I can’t imagine why it’s taking so long. They originally wanted the position to start 7/12 or 7/19, so it’s getting pretty late for them to make a decision…
I’m basically in the same boat as Danielle, I just had a second interview with a company that I absolutely need to work for, it’s such a perfect fit for someone like me who’s just starting out after the Peace Corps. I have had 2 interviews for 2 different positions. For the first one, I doubt that I’m the top candidate because they’re doing another round of interviews, but the interviewers actually liked me enough to recommend me for a totally different position which actually seems to suit me better. After a bit of a mis-communication on HR’s part who told me the 1st position I interviewed for had been filled, I was crushed, I didn’t understand how that could be. That was my job! But things were cleared up, I’m still in the running for it, but also this new and better position came along so that was very unexpected. So as of this afternoon I have interviewed with this company for 2 positions with 8 different employees for 3 hours and 15 minutes. They were all incredibly positive, the manager and I had a very open and relaxed conversation, he asked me which position I’d prefer…does that mean I’ll have a choice? Ha, well…I won’t get ahead of myself, but it was very refreshing to be told I’m most interesting to him and that a lot of people here like me. I got nothing but good feelings so it’ll be really hard to take if I don’t get the job, but now for me, the waiting game continues.
Yes, I think you’re right. Thanks for all your help, I’ll keep you posted. Happy 4th of July weekend!
Hi Irina!
I know waiting is hard – and holiday time waiting can especially drive us bonkers. I don’t feel comfortable advising you one way or the other since I don’t know all the details and since only you can decide, but my thought is…if the recruiter asked you to go through her and you’ve only given her one day to respond on a holiday weekend, then you might wind up hurting the relationship and maybe even your job chances.
Think about it…if you wait until Tuesday (or Wednesday to give her time to get word back from the company whose people may also be on vacation), you’ve lost nothing other than the desire to know NOW…which is about meeting your own needs after all. Yes? So what will you lose by waiting? And weigh against that what you might lose by going against the recruiter, who in this case would be your employer to begin with (or might have other jobs if this falls through). I think you know in your heart what the smart move is.
Good luck deciding what to do. And good luck with the job!
~ Ronnie Ann
I decided to listen to the recruiter then I let another week go by. Today I called the recruiter but she wasn’t responding to phone or email. Maybe she went out of town for the log weekend or something. She’s usually pretty quick to reply though. Would you advise against me calling HR just to see if they’re still considering me?
Sounds like you’ve done all the right things so far, Danielle. Hope you get the offer. Tons of stuff behind the scenes that have to happen, so give it some time. Obviously, they like you – now we just need to know if it’s a match. Good to stay in touch with them even if it doesn’t come through. As for other jobs…trust me…they happen even when we can’t see them yet. But for now…may it be THIS ONE! 😉
Good luck! Please let us know what happens. Sounds like you have a really good shot at it.
~ Ronnie Ann
Ughhhh, I’m in the same situation right now, trying to stay sane and busy. Way back on 5/24 I had a phone interview for this position I’m currently up for. Then I went crazy waiting for an in person interview until 6/15, when I finally got an interview request. Had my first in person interview that Friday, 6/18. Had an email in my inbox Monday at noon requesting I come back for a 2nd interview. Had my 2nd interview last Thursday, 6/24, and I haven’t heard anything back yet.
There were lots of good signs at both interviews that I got the job. Had lots of confidence and had a good sales pitch for why I was the best candidate. My potential supervisor seems to really like me and spent most of the 2nd interview answering my questions and trying to “sell me on the job”. She even showed me all her computerized files and calendars, which I think is way more detail than normal to go into. Also she told me when I got off the elevator that they’d “talk to me soon.”
I was told that 7 people were being interviewed for the first interview, and only 1 or 2 would get call backs for second interviews. I met with 3 people at my 2nd interview, and nothing was said to me regarding another candidate. One person even mentioned “I don’t know if I’m meeting with another person or not.”
So like I said, lots of good signs, but until that job offer is in hand, I’m going to go crazy. I emailed the HR rep this afternoon to see if I could get a deadline, since I wasn’t able to get one last week since the last person I spoke to wasn’t in the loop about the hiring timeline. Hopefully I either get an offer or at least a better idea of when I will get an answer. This is a job at a huge hospital system, so I’m sure there are lots of levels of approval and red tape.
This really is the perfect job for me, and I’ll really be crushed if I don’t get it. I’ve been having so much trouble finding a job as a new college grad in this economy… Nothing else out there that I really want or am qualified for like this one.
Hi Irina!
If you had found the e-addresses before the recruiter told you not to contact them, then direct contact would be ok. But since the recruiter – who found you and at this point has ownership of the job – asks you not to, listen to them. It shows the recruiter and company whether you’re someone they would trust to work for them. I’ve worked in an IT area where we hired folks, and we worked through the recruiter, so this is pretty standard. Of course, there’s always the risk they have other candidates up against you, but no way to know. All new jobs are a risk of some sort.
All you can do is look to what your gut tells you. Are you willing to risk it? And of course, stay in touch with your recruiter – but not too often. As for your mom…the good news is you had a shot at a good job and did really well in the interviews, no matter what happens. It also lets you know there are probably other jobs out there for you if you really want to look. With moms – and pretty much everyone else – a lot of it is how you tell the story. 😉
Good luck Irina! Please let us know what happens and what you decide.
~ Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie,
I’ve been working at my company for nearly 2 years now but about a month ago, a recruiter about a better opportunity that was available. It’s a highly reputable company with a significant salary increase. I was very excited about the position, I sent her my resume and then didn’t hear back for a couple of weeks. Then, she said they wanted to schedule a phone interview, that went pretty well. Then a second interview followed and I thought that went great. He implied I got the job and we briefly discussed the system layout. I didn’t follow up with a thank note or email because I wasn’t given anything beyond their name and position from the recruiter. Sure, I could have been more resourceful but I left the interview with so much excitement that it slipped my mind.
The interviewer said he’ll let me know within in a week. That was on the 17th of June. On the 24th of June I still hadn’t heard anything so I asked the recruiter for their info to send thank you notes. She said, “Please don’t send any thank you notes. Just be patient and we’ll let you know as soon as we hear anything.” They have some arrangement with the recruiting company company where I work under contract for them 3 months and get checks through the recruiting company before they officially sign me on. Should I attempt to send notes despite the recruiter’s recommendation? I can find their email on the company’s website if I really needed to. Also, it seems a little risky for me to leave my full-time job for a contract-to-hire sort of deal although they’ve assured me that they’ve hired every candidate from the recruiter this way. On top of that, I was so ecstatic about the interview that I told my mom that it went really well. Now I wish I hadn’t because she’s more anxious than I am, I’d hate to let her down if it didn’t go as well as I thought.
Thanks in advance,
Irina
Oh Kiran…you’re doing what almost every job seeker does…looking for meaning in each word and action. I’ve often used the words “good luck” when responding to candidates, even those I thought we might make an offer to. Rarely is one person in control of an offer. “Good luck” is just a pleasant thing to say. And I’ve also responded to those I doubted we’d hire. None of this means anything. Do your best to keep occupied and keep applying with full determination! Oh…and just one more thing Kiran…
Good luck! 😉 Please let us know how it turns out.
~ Ronnie Ann
Hello Ronnie Ann,
You maintain a wonderful website and it was very enlightening to go through your website.I know this might not make much sense but just wanted to lift burden of my shoulders by sharing with someone knowledgable.
I had an interview around 3 days ago and around 5 people interview me and it went well and then i sent in a thank you letter to recruiter and also a mail asking for interviewers mail id and then mailed all the interviewers a thank you letter within 1 day of interview.I then got a reply back yesterday from an interviewer saying thanks and he enjoyed the interview and also said good luck.
So should i see anything into this.I am trying to stay positive thinking recruiter wouldn’t have sent me the interviewers mail id’s if they didn’t like me and also interviewer wouldn’t have sent me a reply to my thank you mail if they weren’t interested.maybe i am trying to draw inferences for everything.
I would like to know what are your comments on above.
Fingers crossed for you Tiara. Best of luck!!
~ Ronnie Ann
Thank you for your words of wisdom! I still have not heard anything. Usually I recieve a ” Thank you but we have someone more experienced” E-mail or Phone call by now so I am still thinking positive. I sent a Thank You letter last Friday. You are right I should just give them a call. I’ll let you know how it goes. Thank you very much!
-Tiara
Thanks John for helping out. Your advice is spot on. I hope you get the offer despite what you saw, Tiara. And sometimes…well, things happen. As they say…it ain’t over until it’s over. But if not, keep looking with redoubled determination. We are here for you.
And if you want to read some of John’s great tips for extra inspiration:
15 Job Search Tips from a Guy Who Just Got a Job
Good luck! Please let us know what happens.
~ Ronnie Ann
Tiara,
Dont drive yourself crazy. Today is the start of a three weekend. I am sure the interviewer meant it sincerely however the day before a holiday can be a difficult day.
The main decision maker may have decide to take the day off at the last minute or what happen to me. I had items I want to accomplish thinking it would be some what slow day however today was crazy.
In my opinion wait until Wednesday(Ronnie Ann weigh in if you disagree).
Enjoy the weekend just put the follow up with the interviewer as a Wednesday “to do” item.
Good Luck.
I just had an interview on Monday for a nurse residency. I am a new graduate and it is very hard to get a job right now with out RN experience. The waiting is killing me. The website says the position has been filled. But I have not recieved a “Thanks anyways” e-mail yet, and my references have not been called yet. I know that there is hope but it is still driving me nuts. My interviewer said they would make their choice by Friday(tomorrow). Guess I just have to think positive (= and find something to keep me busy.
Congratulations, LW. WuhooOOOooooOOO!
For everyone else out there waiting…two job offers in one day on this blog. I’m so thrilled. Hope it’s a good sign for all my readers.
Best of luck. So glad they knew a good thing when they saw it…even if it took a while for them to get the picture right. 😉
~ Ronnie Ann
Oops – typo. I meant to say “please know that not ALL waiting is in vain”
Are you ready for this???
I got the call this morning – a job offer!
Y’all, from sending in my resume to job offer it took almost nine months!
So, anyone out there who is in the waiting game – please know that not waiting is in vain! Thanks much to Ronnie Ann and everyone who posted with encouraging thoughts!
Hopefully less from me is more. 😉 So I will simply say…thank you John!!!
~ Ronnie Ann
LW
You are not alone with this situation.
Hopefully my comment will help.
I was interviewing with a firm for always 4 months(see some of my previous posts detailing the trials and tribulations).
I got the job and I have been there 2 weeks. Now I understand why it took so long.
First the delays and radio silence had nothing to do with me.
There more pressing issues that took place at the firm that required more attention than hiring me.
I was the top candidate half way through the process however with any decision all the other candidates had to be fully interviewed to re enforce I was the correct choice.(You would do the same for example if you bought a car, you may love 1 car but you will check out other cars and dealerships same thing with a candidate.)
Example we interviewed someone on Wednesday yet we still haven’t discussed him as a viable candidate yet and probably wont until the end of next week. Frustrating for you yes but there are other priorities. I wish it wasnt the case being there my self for 15 months as unemployed.
Your situation creates a yo yo of emotions throw in what is happening on the economic fronts and the delays in hiring/decision making are increase exponentially.
My best advice is follow up tactfully and forcefully with reserve. That is what helped me get this job.
Absent my skill set, it was the fact I kept the lines of communication open but with the attitude of I understand your process and time frames and are mindful of them.
Follow every lead and don’t give up, set daily goals for yourself whether big or small. It does my you feel better about yourself.
Best of luck
Thank you so much for posting this LW. Really well presented scenario I wish everyone waiting to hear back from a job interview would read.
I have folks on other posts who talk about giving them one more week (or whatever) and then forgetting about the job. (If it doesn’t work as they want it to work on their job schedule concocted out of thin air.) Huh? It’s not a linear process – it’s barely understandable for those of us who have seen it many times first hand.
Hopefully your words and real life experience will help make this point loud and clear. The job hunt is not a point in time… something that happens today can become a job in the future. If you think linear, you’ll not only be frustrated, you’ll lose opportunities you may one day wish you had.
Best of luck LW. I do remember you and am smiling because clearly they did too. Hope this time it’s a yes. And yes…please do let us know!!!
~ Ronnie Ann
A few months ago I left a comment when I was given what I thought was an offer and then was told the position was put on hold. They asked me if I wanted to come in for the 2nd interview “anyway” and I politely declined . . .
So, yesterday, out of the blue, the lady who interviewed me twice called and wanted to know if I was still available?!? She said the position was on longer on hold and could I come in right away to meet the team.
I did meet them all today. They seem like very nice people and quite friendly (much more than my last job where it was a bit cutthroat). We all talked for an hour. They asked me why I hadn’t found work in the mean time. I told them the truth. I stopped looking for the time being and worked on renovating the home my hubby and I just bought.
The interview went well. I asked when they would make a decision and was told by next Friday. They asked if I had any vacations planned for the summer (which I take to mean “are you available to work hard all summer). Also, I asked if the position was salaried or hourly – they told me salary and how much they might offer.
Now, I want to get my hopes up but since my job search has had such high hopes and disappointment I just don’t know what to think. I have a week to simmer in my own juices waiting. My biggest fear is they will call back and tell me the position is on hold again and I will completely lose my mind.
I feel like a teenaged girl again waiting for a boy to call and ask me to the dance! My friends and I would go over and over everything boys said trying to figure out what would happen. Will he call? Does he like me? It’s 1980 all over again . . .
I’m just posting this for anyone else who feels like the job search is playing cruel tricks on their minds!
Will post again either way – job offer or ??
Thanks John. Your advice is much appreciated. As I wrote you privately, it may very well show up in its own post soon. 😉 You sure can attest to the role patience, openness, and determination play in finally getting that job!
So glad to know things are going well. I wish you continued good luck in your career and elsewhere. You’ve been a delight to get to know even a little and a real help to others – and for that I am very grateful.
All my best!
~ Ronnie Ann
Also
-Always send thank you notes and follow up the person you would be amazed how a note, email or call(be careful with phones calls find out how the person likes follow up) restarts the process.
-Be positive, being down on yourself comes across in interviews.
-At the end of the interview ask what is their process and timeframe and when you might be able to follow up. It’s not pushy it’s professional.
Good Luck
Well I got the job and have been there a week and I am enjoying completely.
First things first
A heartfelt thanks and appreciation to Ronnie Ann, truly a wonderful person.
Thanks to all the folks for their support, it means alot to folks who are unemployed and are struggling.
Some advice from my personal view
-Dont get down on yourself, you will get a job its the uncertainty that can mess with your pysche.
-Opportunities occur when you least expect
-Follow every lead and talk to people you be surprised how people sincerely want to help.
-If people dont get back to you alot of the time it has nothing to do with you as a candidate. Schedules change, issues arise, decision makers are out of the office.
-Always send a cover letter and resume of course. I had CEO of a firm personally reach out to reject me as a candidate(my skill set wasnt close but I gave it a shot) to say that because I was the only candidate to sent a cover letter, had my skill set matched, I would have been a top candidate.
Good Luck and Warmest Regards
John
Hi Abhishek!
It sounds like you did well and they are nearing the final stages in anticipation of making an offer to someone. Unfortunately, without a crystal ball that actually works, I can’t predict whether or not you are that someone. 😉
As I say in my post How to Tell If a Job Interview Went Well, the only way to know for sure is when/if you get the offer.
You’ve done all you can. Now, hard as it may be, all you can do is wait. I hope the answer is “yes” but if not, please make sure you contact them anyway. Thank them and let them know you’d be very open to other positions or even some project-basis work so they can see how good you really are. Always keep your contacts warm and friendly whenever possible!
I wish you the best of luck. Please let us know what happens. We’re rooting for you, Abhishek!
~ Ronnie Ann
Hello,
I am new graduate and looking for a job in my field of study (Mechanical Engineering), while currently as a customer service representative.
Now I had an interview with a good firm on March 29th. It went really well and I was quite hopeful. They called me back on April 5th asking me to come in for a trade test on April 9th. The trade test was so-so. I was able to only able to complete 2/3 of it in the time they gave me. I met two people during my interviews and promptly sent thank you notes to both of them after both interviews.
Now! I called on April 19th and spoke to the guy who actually has to make the decesion. He remembered my name, spoke nicely, taking time and remembered receiving my mail. His exact words “you are definitely on top of our list right now”.
After waiting two weeks I sent him an e-mail on 3rd May, expressing my continual interest,reason why I am so interested and that I am waiting for his decesion. Did not ask for updates or status or anything. That was also the day whent he position dissapeared from the company’s website.
He replied the next day saying “thank you for your interest and we will contact you soon”
Where do I stand with this???
Thanks in advance
Oh John!!! Great news. So happy for you – even if the salary is a bit less than you might have hoped. (I like how you handled that, btw. Exactly the thing to say.) Hope the bonus is huge and the equity grows by leaps and bounds – with your help. 😉
Thank you so much for letting us know – and for offering us more good advice. You’re the poster person for how it’s done – no matter how long it takes. 😉
Nice job. (Pun intended.) All my best, John!
~ Ronnie Ann
He cancels Friday breakfast and reschedules for Saturday for breakfast.
I got the job, the salary was a little lower than he intimated.
Anyway I accept and ask if at year end we can review my performance and possibly look at a salary adjustment. This position also includes a year end bonus and equity in the firm.
I am waiting for the contract, start date is the 12th.
My advice after a year and 2 months is follow every lead, look at jobs that might now match your skill set exactly(I only matched on 70% of the skills), and don’t give up.
You will meet true professionals who even if they reject you they show respect. Learn from that.
Also and probably more importantly, learn from the unprofessionals so that when roles are reversed you know who to act gracefully and professionally when you may be the hiring manager.
Never say Quit
Hi jobhunter! Yes… at least you have a job. But I’m wishing much more for you soon. Hope the hospital finally comes to its senses. 😉 Please keep us posted. Meanwhile, you never know when a temp job provides opportunities for more. If you haven’t read this, you might enjoy:
Job Morphing: 20 Career Tips to Help Improve Your Job and Career
And Keith…I just want to thank you again for sharing your story. Very inspiring. Hardest part about job search is often it feels like nothing is happening – until something does! Good luck in the new job.
And of course…John…we are ALL rooting for you. Best of luck.
~ Ronnie Ann
I’ll get to more comments on other posts soon…really! (It’s been hectic here. 😉 ) But just had to sneak back in say two quick things:
HUGE congratulations Keith! So happy for you. Thanks for sharing…and for offering your encouragement. Hope to see you only as a well-employed visitor for a long time to come.
And of course we all wish you good luck John. I understand why you go in guarded mode…but oh how I hope you will have a patience-pays-off story to tell us. BEST OF LUCK!
~ Ronnie Ann
Would you believe, this close……
So I spend last week consulting at this firm. The owner gave me very positive feedback. We set up a meeting for this morning, so yesterday I send an e mail to confirm and late in the afternoon I see his phone # as a missed called and a voice mail. So I am thinking now what.
I listen to the voicemail and he has to cancel for this morning but can we meet Saturday which he follows up with ” I have good news”.
Considering what I have been through with this I have guarded optimism.
Any and all comments are welcomed and needed.
Thanks
HI Ronnie…just been catching up on all the posts from John, Mlk etc…wow…sounds frustrating to say the least…
I have been away for a while as someone eventually responded to a constant pester from me for an interview.
On the first call to me the owner then mentioned how he was really looking for someone to replace him…anyhow, so we did the ‘dance’ John mentioned – Consultant this – project that and that was over a month ago…wants to see results fast…make quick decisions… Mentioned how he liked my style and approach, how the company lacked direction, people lacked discipline, focus and operating systems etc. Basically he was dangling carrots, playing with me to see if I would bite.
So rather than play the game his way, I got on with my project and small team whilst really getting to know the people, their issues etc…all the time only a ‘consultant’… hearing this and that about everyone…determining what issues were needing to be tackled and in what order…
Well, today I was appointed the Design Director…effective May 1 – initially heading up an entire team of his company, get my feet wet. I have been asked to hire people and also, sadly the reverse…do things my way, and basically begin to over time who knows what next…? Talk about dancing around the tree though… goodness…what a dance I went through…
Just want to encourage John and everyone else. I know – it really IS tough – especially when you so desperately need work – if only for the perceived sanity it seems to bring, however shortlived that may be!! Keep me posted how it goes – who knows – I may be back in a similar situation again before too long!!!
Oh John! You’re so right. More and more, we are leaving the world of hire first and see how it goes. I honestly have never heard of anything quite like this myself.
I’m way behind on answering comments, but I snuck in since you’ve waited for so long; I figure you deserve a giant hug right now. And a giant SHEESH!
Curious what your gut is telling you. Did you enjoy working with him and his staff? Is it a place you’d like to work (aside from the very real need to have a paycheck of course)? Do people who work there seem happy or befuddled? 😉
If you like the guy and the company – apart from this drawn out mating dance – of course, see what Friday brings. But I also hope you’re shaking the networking bushes (even those you’ve shaken before) for jobs that will actually be offered! 😉 (From what we’ve seen of you here, I have no doubt you are.)
Very curious to see what he says. I wish you MUCH luck. You sure have me stymied. Please continue to keep us posted.
~ Ronnie Ann
Update
I worked there for a week and accomplished a few projects and wrote some procedures.
At week’s end , I met with the owner for feedback which was all positive. He said I am impressed with your grasp of the issues the firm faces.
Still no contract.
He is bringing in the other candidate for a 2 day stint. I have a breakfast meeting with him this Friday.
I have friends who are senior HR people and executive career coaches and they are perplexed.
The feedback I get is that I am doing very thing right and its the sign of the times. A friend of my has been speaking with the CFO of a major insurance for 10 months. He is being told they are trying to find the right spot.
I am trying to stay as positive as I can considering I have been unemployed for a year.
It’s not about us, our skill set or qualifications, it’s the sign of the times
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all the advice/support, unfortunately the hospital has yet to contact me. On the bright side I do have a temporary gig with a well known big Pharma corp. until mid August, got this job throught a recruiting agency.
Hopefully I can use this temp job as both experience on resume and as a way to get my foot in the door with the company.
Still hoping to find out about the last interview…and still looking for a long term position. So far things are….OK…at least I have a job right!!!
Thanks all
Sorry it took me so long to get back to all of you. Lots going on here at home, but I’m back. 😉
John: I’m thrilled to hear there’s real movement after ALL this time. Congratulations. And just think of all those tickets you can buy with the next-to-biggest prize! Quite honestly…if I am not 100% sure of a place (not sure I ever am) I prefer to start as a consultant and see if the fit is right. Hope it is. Please let us know how things go!
JobHunter & Jules: Great conversation! Love what you said Jules and how you handled your own job hunt. Exactly the kind of one step beyond job hunters need to take nowadays. Very cool. And also very cool the way you offered support to Jules. We are all in this together.
As for you JobHunter… hope by now you’ve heard some good news. Third candidates can be anything – no way to interpret that. I’ve seen last-minute candidates we couldn’t stand but whom, because of politics we had to interview. NOT hire – but interview. You did your best, which is all anyone can do. Please let us know what happened! Fingers, legs, and eyes crossed for you. 😉
~ Ronnie Ann
Jobhunter…I have so been down that path! And as far as the internal candidate thing goes, I have been up against internal candidates before and still got the role. I think it all depends on the company. My impression is that companies are really keen to get high quality external candidates at the moment. Fresh blood!
Last year I went through the same thing. I’m sure I applied for well over 50 jobs!
Then ended up with 2 offers and now have been headhunted out of my current role. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
I did decide to do things a bit differently though…some suggestions you may or may not find useful…
I developed my own personal job hunting website through vistaprint. It costs around $8 per month and I put it together in 1 day. The first prospective employer that saw it, offered my a job the day after my first interview! I sent the link as part of my application.
For jobs I really really wanted, I created a business case that I presented in the interview. How I saw their company, what I would bring to the table, fresh new ideas. I even did pre interview youtube company specific videos.
It can be alot of work, but it has really paid off. And lifted my profile and skill set.
As depressing as it can be, you will find a great job…it’s just around the corner! they always are!
Hope this helps.
HEY JULES,
Thank you for the feed back…my primary concern is the possibility of this third candidate being an internal applicant and most often then not a company usual goes for an internal than an external.
I have been searching for months and have applied to well over 40 places by now and am starting to get discouraged. I really thought I had this one. Any thoughts
thanks again for the input, the feedback helps with the post interview/job searching blues.
Hi Jobhunter
A similar thing happened to me last year. I thought I had the job in the bag and then without knowing a headhunter called me to see I would be interested in a job. It was the same one! I had gone through 2, 2 hour interviews.
But the good news is…I got the job! I think this type of thing happens alot and I wouldn’t take it as a bad omen at all.
Good luck!
Ronnie Ann,
I have recently applied to an a job with a hospital and have gone through two interviews. They all went well and I called today to find out where they were in the hiring process. The job came down to me and one other person and I felt really good about the position. However, once I called the HR rep I found out they brought a third candidate into the process for consideration and I was told I would hear something next week.
What does this mean for me? Is it a bad omen that I did not get the position due to the third candidate. I am getting worried and I wanted this position. Any advice or answers would help
Thanks
NEWS FLASH
I meet with him today and we agree that I will work as a consultant for 1 week starting next week.
I feel good about it however it feel like getting 5 numbers in Lotto so very close but not the top prize
And now…congratulations to mlk and Julz. Wuhooo! What great news.
Nice way to go, mlk. I wish everyone that kind of “human” process.
And love the moral of your story, Julz. A great reminder for people who think they got bad news…good news may still be coming.
Thank you for letting us know. Best of luck in your new jobs!!! It makes my day. Now for John…
😉
~ Ronnie Ann
Great conversation. I saw no reason to butt in. 😉
Good luck John! Please let us know.
And mlk…I want to give you a big hug for caring so much! FYI…I myself have had anywhere from 5-7 separate interviews over a period of months at times, and it was all good. Depends on the company and type of job. But you ask great questions. 😉
Best of luck!
~ Ronnie Ann
Actually what I would like to ask is “how were you able to build this business if your decision making is so slow”.
ps Two of folks who worked there that I spoke to said they did 7 interviews
Update; I didn’t get the job where I bombed out at the role play. They did my references etc but then the guy who interviewed me was offered a new job etc etc etc. As these things go.
Then the next week a recruiter I know quite well called and asked if I would go for an interveiw the next day for a role. Went for the interview, went really well, offered the job the next day!
These things always work themselves out in the end.
My suggestion is keep applying for roles even if you are close to getting a job. Always good to have a plan B.
Why don’t you make him an offer? I read about it in one of my many, many interviewing books – making them an offer that addresses their concerns and gives a probationary period for both? Maybe it will get him off the fence either way he’s leaning and give you a deadline and show you really want to make it work.
mlk
Congrats on the job
mlk,
The company is established in a niche market. We have discussed the salary and comp which is good plus its at the right level( I would be 2nd in command) plus there’s equity and its 10 miles from home.
Could he be leading me on short answer is Yes however he did hired a #2 which worked out terribly his words.
What I found out from his outsourced HR person is he is gun shy by nature and this has magnified it.
He has stated he needs a #2. He also knows I have other things in the works however I go on 2nd and 3rd interviews and still wait.
Some of my friends have gone on 7 and 8 interviews over 3-4 months.
At this point if he told me I didnt get the job, I wouldnt love it but I wouldnt be investing any more emotional capital.
I may politely but pointedly ask what is his intentions about hiring me. If he has concerns, communicate them to me and I will address the best I can.
Or just not follow up with him anymore and let him reach out to me when he is ready.
Thanks for the support
Oh and an update on my status – I did get the job. There were two top candidates and they created a position for both of us that is what took so long. However, they let me know that once they made a decision and put it into motion. It was a wait, but no leading on. So hang in there people and make sure to follow up and set the right expection for your limits!!
Is this a reputable company? Do you know what the salary range is?? It sounds like he is really, really leading you on.
Also, you have to consider that you are giving him the impression that says I am willing to wait, can’t find another job or that you can potentially be lead or taken advantage of. I’m sorry if this sounds harsh, but it is just my perception. You deserve so much better!
No interview process should take so long without some kind of a commitment. It really does sound like they are trying to use your skills without paying you.
Best of luck!!
It’s been awhile. So anyway at the breakfast meeting we talk , he asks me some technical questions easy ones. Then I ask him if he is comfortable about my technical and people skills. He says not a problem. He then says of 2 candidates I am the top one. However if we proceed I would be a consultant for a period time like and extended interview. I am good with that.
He emails me today for a meeting tomorrow. I respond yes and also would like to discuss if this will become an eventuality for me. I also ask if there are any specific topics he wants to discuss. His answer was just ‘a company update and candidate search update’.
If after we talk and I am no closer to a definitive answer should I just call him out on it(this started in FEB.
All comments are welcomed and needed(for my sanity)
Thanks
Hi Keith! Amen to that. I recently read an article about secrecy within organizations that may have originated for one reason and now still exists maybe for no good reason at all. Would be a huge service to so many people if we could find a way to change this – and instill some good old communication skills… starting within the company. But first, maybe we’ll find a cure for all major disease. 😉
Sorry you had to go through this, but very much appreciate you taking the time to share so others know they are not alone. I hope you find the right job soon. Good luck, Keith! ~ Ronnie Ann
Ah John! The saga continues. Thanks for keeping us informed. Curious minds want to know. And who knows…you may actually get breakfast AND an offer. 😉 Good luck, of course. Can’t wait to hear what happens. ~ Ronnie Ann
A long long time ago in a county far, far away began an interview for a position……
The beleaguered candidate is called yet again for another breakfast meeting with the OWNER…..
Episode 8 A New Hope or not
Hey there Ronnie – boy, isn’t this a tough one…the waiting game, the ‘promises’ to call…??
I went through 2 interviews with one company (1 by Skype; and 1 VC) with every “intention” that there would be a third…
Eventually I then received an email from the Department Head’s PERSONAL email address, wondering if I had had an update from his colleague…guess what that meant…!!!
What really gets me though is the sign-off (that is if people even BOTHER to respond at all) – we will keep your details on file in case of…blah! blah! blah… really???
What I would really like and everyone really deserves is openness and honesty and some credit for having some maturity. I was informed “ONE of the reasons…” Well, if there are more reasons than just one – let us KNOW what ALL of the reasons were… Given the seniority of the position etc… I think I can “handle the truth…” and – it would certainly help for the future and making the right decisions about career direction, which jobs to apply for, level…etc…
Who knows if some of the ‘reasons’ are actually not valid – then it would at least also provide an opportunity to let the recruiter know that they may have made a decision based on faulty or totally incorrect assumptions/ information…???
However – this goes for all applications that promise the same – and even at a normal social level – IF you have NO INTENTION of calling – JUST SAY SO – don’t promise and then don’t…!!! I have had so many ‘promises’ to call (that never materialize) I switch off every time I hear it, read it – even sense it… I am sorry but I have a life to lead…
Hahahahaha! You crack me up John. Great attitude. Of course, I wish you all the luck and then some. We’ll have to have a huge cyber-celebration party if you get this offer. Let’s hope this isn’t how they make all decisions. 😉
~ Ronnie Ann
And yet more….
So he tells me 2 weeks ago things may have changed at his firm(a possible strategic alliance w/ another firm. But will contact another this Friday. I sent an e mail and leave a voicemail.
I stated that I would like some finality regarding this opportunity and if it is still available.
Sunday he sends a an e-mail.. the opportunity is still open and he has more clarity on the role can I speak with him on Tues
I am going to needs meds one way or another after this
Oh…and John…I just want to thank you for your GREAT comment.
Couldn’t have said it better. I mean to add “What he said” earlier, but just a hectic week. Big hugs to you and the rest of the gang!
~ R
Please excuse the absence. I’ve had my own waiting game going on related to a consulting contract as well as a heater repair guy. Busy week and more to come. But, although I had to put my policy of NOT ANSWERING EVERY QUESTION OR COMMENT into practice, I have NOT forgotten any of you. 😉 It’s just that I do this in my spare time and sometimes there just isn’t any!
That said…this week’s post was inspired by your comments. And despite the title, it is meant with love and exactly the words I tell myself!
Don’t Let a Whiner’s Club Attitude Screw Up Your Interview AND Career Chances!
All the best Jeremy (glad you did that), Chris (good sign), Cintheia (yes…normal for government jobs) and everyone else! PLEASE keep us posted.
~ Ronnie Ann
i apply for a police dispatcher job. i received a caled back and was asked to complete a 12 page background inforation and questions, photo of my self, and to have it notarized. the background is complete. they called to interview. is it normal to do a background check before interview. does it mean i have the job, they just want to meet me.
My pleasure Jeremy! You’ve done your best. And yes…now it’s the old waiting game. Good time to develop solutions to major world problems or write a lengthy novel. 😉 Fingers, legs and eyes remained crossed. Best of luck!
~ Ronnie Ann
Thanks for the response Ronnie Ann! I called the person who interviewed me yesterday and just left a short message inquiring about the position again. So hopefully something happens soon! It’s just tough playing the waiting game. Thanks for your advice!
-Jeremy
No way to know for sure. At the very least, a hopeful sign. Good luck!
~ Ronnie Ann
Thanks Ronnie Ann. What do you make of the second interviewer asking for the performance review? I am guessing that because I was laid off they just want to make sure it was not performance related? Also am hoping that going through this much trouble they are seriously considering making me an offer!
Hi Chris #2!
This all sounds great. This is the time to call your recruiter and let him/her know about your other offers and ask how to best handle things. Hopefully your recruiter knows the company (you might try to assess how well s/he knows them) and will advise you well – esp. since they want you to get the offer!
This can be a tricky situation and companies don’t like to be pushed – but they also don’t want to lose good candidates. Start with the recruiter and then let us know if that doesn’t seem to be an approach you feel good about.
Best of luck! And please keep us posted.
~ Ronnie Ann
Hi Chris #1!
Please see first two sentences above. 😉 At this point, I think you’ve contacted them enough. Now…hard as I know it is…just wait. Even if it;s a couple more weeks. I once waited 3 or 4 months and was the top candidate! (Not that I wish that for you.)
In the meantime…this might be worth reading for you and others in the same situation:
After an Interview: Can Weekly Follow Up Calls and Emails Help Get You the Job?
Good luck! Please let us know how things turn out.
~ Ronnie Ann
Hi Jeremy!
As I like to remind people, if you are one of the top candidates and they put all this time and effort into, they haven’t forgotten you. And scheduling within a company can take longer than you can imagine. Calling the recruiter probably can’t move the company process along any faster – and believe me…the recruiter wants you in there too (unless they have another candidate ahead of you which happens some times.) But as of this point, if it would help you feel better, I think one more call to the recruiter would be ok.
Good luck! Please let us know what happens. 😉
~ Ronnie Ann
Don’t worry. More coming soon…
~ Ronnie Ann
First…I love all my readers…but what are you doing to me! 😉 I just started a new consulting job and have even less spare time to work on my blog. That’s why I really appreciate when you support and help each other. Big smile mlk, John, & Jules for the mutual support and caring. Really makes me feel great to see this.
And now I will try to answer. Excuse the brevity. Work deadline calls. 😉
mlk and Jules: Just want to say again how much I appreciate your comments and that I am rooting for you both. You would think they designed the hiring process as a torture device! Please let us know what happens. Really hoping for double-header of good news!
Hi again JohnThe comment above applies to you and then some I think. But at this point, let it go on. There may be a great explanation that maybe you’ll learn one day – or not. But in any event – as someone who once got “strung along” because there was another candidate they thought was stronger (silly them) and then I got offered the job anyway – just keep the process going at this point.
And if I may risk being corny (I’m a hopeless cornball) – maybe a visualization of good stuff happening to the folks there and all of you together celebrating your promotion after 1 year might be worth trying instead? 😉
Good luck!
~ Ronnie Ann
Ronnie,
Quick question. I was recently laid off due to company reorg/downsizing. I just went on second interview with new company last Friday and it went well!! Third in total including the intitial phone iv. The recruiter called me Monday morning and said they spoke to the person I interviewed with and confirmed it went well. The recruiter then asked if I could provide a copy of my performance evaluation from my previous employer. I was happy to provide since the evaluation was fine and there was nothing negative in it. They confirmed receipt and said they would be in touch shortly. Any clue on how I should read into this? I wouldnt think they would want to see the performance eval if they were not interested? Also, I have other offers on the table right now but really want this job! How long before I should call and what should I mention the other offers outstanding? Thank you.
Chris
Let us know after he calls you this evening! I am not holding my breath even though I am supposed to get a call this week. Seems to me if they wanted to hire me they would be in constant contact not wait weeks in between. That has been my experience anyway! Whenever I got the job it wasn’t lengthy and I didnt have to keep calling or contacting them. Maybe we should both move on!
mlk,
I am setting up a response.
That thought has crossed my mind. The job posting came off career builder 2 days after my first interview. It was only up for a week.
Went through 5 interviews and personality assesment tests plus a person to review them.
So my view are the following:
They could be stringing us along for a better candidate which may never come and we move on and serves them right.
They could be very busy and we only make their radar when we call or email and it jump starts them.
Business/Personal emergencies.
Vacation or business travel.
They need approval/buy in from other people who also maybe unavailable.
No professionalism (some recruiters and HR types)
And what keeps me smiling at night is when the shoe is on the other foot they will suffer like us and in the middle of the night when they cant sleep and the question of why is this happening to me—they will be hit with of rush of clarity, its because they did it to others.
What comes around goes around, sometimes you are lucky enough to see it happen.
Hang in there.
Best Regards
J
John, I don’t understand why you have to keep calling them? I am in a similar situation, it seems as though for both of us they may be trying to keep you hanging while they try to find a candidate that they feel is better qualified. What is your feeling on that?
Ronnie Ann,
Update: After not hearing from the owner for 5 days, sent an e mail basically asking if I am still a viable candidate or not. He came back to me with wanting to speak via phone tonight.
Is this a good sign or not?
Thanks for all your support
J
Hi Ronnie Ann,
For a position with a large corporation, I had a phone HR interview during the second week of January, which led to a panel interview with the hiring manager during the second week of February. And a week after the panel interview, I received a call from the hiring manager’s assistant telling me that the manager will be calling me the following week because of her busy schedule. —It’s been two weeks since that call. I had emailed the hiring manager twice saying I was looking forward to speaking with her. I haven’t received any response. What’s your take? Should I be patient and wait?
Hi Ronnie Ann,
I had an interview and it went really well and I got an email asking for my availability to meet again for a second interview. I didn’t hear back so after two weeks I called to follow up and the recruiter said they are still figuring things out but I will be contacted as soon as possible for the second interview. Now two weeks have passed since the phone call and I haven’t heard anything yet. Should I email her or call again or should I just wait it out?
Thanks mlk. It certainly feels better to know I’m not alone. And there is nothing I can do about it now. Lets hope they could see past my nerves.
Fingers crossed for you and thanks for the support.
Sending out the vibe to a positive outcome for us both!
Jules, I can totally relate to what happened to you in your presenation – I too have over 10 years in sales and have given numerous presentations to large groups without incident. I recently went on a third interview (my post is above) and felt like I blew it!! I felt like my voice was shaking and I could catch my breathe during a part of the interview. However, good news is – I followed up with an email and focused on why they brought me back for a third time and I got a positive email back saying they think very highly of me and they will be back with me no later than next week. Although I don’t know why it takes so long and what would prevent them from calling sooner – I am hopeful, at least it wasn’t a no. I will keep you posted on what happens when they call me next week. Don’t beat yourself up over it – I know it’s easier said than done, but that’s what I did all week – apparently for nothing, it must not have been as bad as I thought! Best of luck!!
No guarantees of course, Jules…but my take is very hopeful. Sometimes we come off better than we think as a whole, even if a part of us is off on the day of the interview. Also, the right polite tone in a follow-up can pique curiosity. Fingers, legs and eyes crossed for you!
Best of luck, Jules!!
~ Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Ann
I sent my email asking for another shot….and 30 minutes later they started calling my references.
What’s your take on that?
thanks
Jules
thanks so much. That was my feeling also. The weird thing is that I have been in professional sales for over 10 years and have presented to groups of up to 100 people. Have also done loads of acting.
Because of this I really feel I let myself down. Anyway will send an email today and ‘get that second chance’.
Will keep you posted on the outcome.
Thanks again…love this blog!!!
Hi Jules!
First…I wish I could give you a big hug. So sorry this happened. I too get nervous at times when I present to people and know all too well how nerves can do you in. 😉 Good news is…practice really helps. For future reference, some people find improv classes or Toastmasters very helpful.
While I have no way of knowing whether they might give you a chance to continue interviewing anyway (some places would) or whether they’d be open to your offer, my question to you is: Is there anything you would lose simply by asking?
As for what to say…just use your own words – from what I see they seem fine. Plus, if you simply present your offer (and eventually your presentation) as yourself and don’t worry about not being as “good” as someone else (we are most effective keeping it real), it’s a great start at knowing your words are as good and effective as anyone else’s! 😉
Good luck, Jules! Please let us know what happens.
~ Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Ann
I went for a second interview which was a ‘role play’. I prepared extensively and put together a compelling presentation.
I got to the role play, nerves took over and I didn’t present my presentation. I bombed!
The interviewer’s feedback was ‘why did you not present your presso it is really good’.
My question; I haven’t heard back and wonder if it’s worth me asking for another chance to present? And if so what should I say?
Thanks
J
Hi Marieke!
At this point and because of your existing relationship with them, I think it would be fine to call. Hope the answer is a big “yes”, but if not, remember to ask if it would be ok to stay in touch in case anything else comes up. Remind them by your tone and positive attitude what a special asset you are! 😉 Doesn’t always work, but worth a shot.
Good luck!
~ Ronnie Ann
Oh John…I don’t even know what to say at this point. And I know you really don’t need us to do more than listen. I can tell you that over the years I have seen many good reasons why well-intended deadlines had to fall by the wayside.
Good luck making sense of all this – and if you don’t mind PLEASE let us know what it all means! 😉
Best of luck!!
~ Ronnie Ann
I am waiting to hear back from HR about the possibility for a second co-op term at the company. HR said they would get back to me on Thursday or Friday. It is now Wednesday of the next week and I wonder if I should call in a followup.
Ronnie Ann,
The saga continues. The owner has sent me 3 e-mails that he is “looking forward to speaking with me further” but has yet to set a specific time.
Considering when we have met his time frame to fill this position was yesterday.
Amazing how people can be successful while not being able to walk the walk of a leader
With apologies…I just got back from almost 2 weeks away and have way too many questions to answer all over my blog. Although I wish I could help each and every reader, as you will see on this blog, I have had to start a policy of not answering every question because I get so many.
That said…here are some quickie answers:
Renee:Times stretch in the waiting game and there’s no way to know what it means. At this point, I think it’s safe to call politely. Good luck!
For others:
After an Interview: Can Weekly Follow-up Calls and Emails Help Get You the Job?
Joni: Sounds like you made a smart move. There are posts on this blog that speak to your question. Please check out Work Coach Cafe search, categories, and the Popular Posts. You’ll get the idea. I wish you much luck!
Oh John! This really is grueling and maybe indicative of who they are as a company, but at this point I’d hang in and just see it though. You never know. I know it’s agony, but think of it as GREAT story – much better if you know the ending rather than cutting it off before it completes. It does feel close, but we’re here to listen even if it takes another…ugh..month!! 😉 Fingers, legs and eyes crossed for you!!!
mlk:Sorry this feels like such an ordeal, but you might as well see what comes of it. Sounds like they want to keep you as an option – although I know no one wants to be second choice. If it helps…I was once second choice and did a much better job than the person they actually hired and then had to fire. I wound up having a life relationship with the boss that I treasure to this day. So go for it with all your heart and see where it leads. If they say no…you’ll know you’ve done your best. As for nerves…almost everyone has them. Don’t worry. Just be yourself.
I wish you all much luck! Please let us know what happens.
~ Ronnie Ann
(OK. Clearly I still need practice NOT answering, but at least I made an effort! 😉 )
I think I may have blown a third interview – I actually got nervous. The previous interviews were fine and went extremely well. I was told I was in the top two candidates for the position. During the last interview they told me that they had already presented an offer to someone else and they declined it and were in the process of trying to work it out. That’s not a good sign I’m sure. However, the third interview was a 4 hour drive and they gave me about 24 hours notice to attend? After he told me about the other candidate he proceeded to talk to me like I had the job??? I feel very mixed signals does anyone have an opinion on it. How do interviewers view a “slightly” nervous person – I could kick myself!
Ronnie Ann,
Ok I spent 2 hours taking the tests then about 2 hours speaking with the HR person. I owner sent me an e-mail to meet either this Thursday or Friday.
This will be my 6th interview at this firm. There are 15 people in this firm.
-Does it I appear to you that I may very close to getting this job
-At what point do I just cut to the chase and ask if I am getting this position or move on.
Many thanks
Hi Ronnie,
I quit a job because there was too much micro-managing – yelling, accusing and then defending myself which just took up time. The last straw was when they accused me of something that I didn’t do and a co-worker showed me documentation that it was the companies fault…double billing. I really don’t know what to say to the next employer why I left. Can you help?
Hi,
Like so many others, I have a question about the horrible waiting game syndrome. I had a phone interview last Tuesday. Everything went well, the interviewer and I laughed and joked a bit and he stated he definitely looks forward to meeting me. He also stated i should hear about a second in-person interview in a week to a week and a half. The week and a half will be tomorrow and I have not heard from anyone Is it OK for me to do a follow-up call tomorrow afternoon? The interviewer sounded really positive, but after reading all of the forums, I have realized that does not mean much. Please give me some advice. I really want this job. Thanks.
Oh John! I hope you aced those tests and have an offer coming your way soon. They sure do put you through a lot for less than a million! 😉
Best of luck. Fingers and everything else crossed!! Please let us know.
~ Ronnie Ann
Ronnie Ann,
Update:
Yesterday I had a 4 hour interview with 6 different principals of the firm. I take the personality/career assessment test this weekend then have a 2 hr call with the person who reviews the results then she communicates these result to the main owner.
I am excited that it is going this far but come on they are not paying million.
Thanks for the support
John
Great news! Sounds really good John. I am wishing you luck and then some. Just be yourself. And please let us know!
~ Ronnie Ann
Ronnie Ann,
I had a 2 1/2 hr breakfast meeting with the owner. I am having a meeting this Friday with his 2 partners. He also said that I will need to take a type of personality test for this position. Wish me luck Hope I pass
Many thanks for the support
Thanks
Hi John!
First…congrats on finding the Husky a great new home. Very cool. As for whether this is a good sign or not… sometimes it’s just a scheduling thing, but it’s certainly not a bad sign. 😉
Thanks so much for sharing some key advice. And please keep us posted. I have fingers, etc. crossed for you!
~ Ronnie Ann
RA,
Update: The owner called me this morning to say he was sorry he didn’t get back to on Wednesday and could we meet for breakfast on Thursday.
New question: Should I look at a breakfast morning as a better sign than if we just met in his office?
One piece of advice I could give is don’t give in to the frustration, anger or despair.
I was starting to feel a bit low then I thought it may have nothing to do with me and it didn’t.
It was a good weekend anyway I foster dogs and found a home for a 4 year Husky with one of my closest friends
RA ,Thanks for the advice and support.
John
Wait, John. Your next step is to just wait. 😉
You’ve done all you can and clearly they will contact you if they are interested. Waiting a few days or even longer is not abnormal. They may be working things out internally or someone key to the process may be away or sick. So for now…your job is to do nothing – other than keep your job search going just in case!
Best of luck, John!
~ Ronnie Ann
I have a different situation. A company pulled my resume from an Internet job site.
The owner of the firm scheduled a phone interview with which lasted about 50 minutes. He then schedule a face to face. This all took place between Friday(phone) and Monday(face to face).
We spoke for 2 hours and at the end he told me what the compensation in the budget and he wants to continue this dialogue and to call him Wednesday. No time was given because he was not sure of his schedule.
All the thank you/follow up notes were sent.
On Wednesday I send an early morning e mail with some time and a quick voice mail. Nothing.
At the end of the day another quick voice mail.
What’s my next step?
Thanks
Hi again CL!
Glad this blog helps and glad you gave it another chance. Next time, probably best not to include a firm date as if you’re giving them a deadline 😉 but I’m still proud you very politely let them know you are interested. You never know.
More proud that you continue to pursue jobs in a determined way. Hope this one is a yes. Meanwhile…keep going – the energy and momentum helps!!
All the best to you!
~ Ronnie Ann
Thanks a lot for your kindly reply.
First of all, I’d like to let you know that your blog here is soooo very helpful, thanks God for guiding me to here.
After sending my question to you, I have read through almost all your comments on the other cases on your blog. Encouraged by them, I have sent a nice email to them to say that I am still interested in the position and ask if it is possible that they can kindly advise me the status of their selection on 25 Jan. But no reply so far.
And good news I’d like to share with you is I had an interview for another job yesterday, and they asked me some question like: what time I can start, and what salary I expected on this role in. I thought those questions are a good sign according what I have read on your blog. This morning I sent the interviewer lady a thanks email and she replied me promptly and said she will back to me with the result at the end of next week.
Many, many thanks again.
CL
Hello Amdeep!
Thank you so much for your kind words. 😉
As a good friend of mine says “No news is no news.” Nothing more you can infer from the lack of contact. But I can tell you…waiting a week or two or even three in some cases, is not too long. If he has sent his thank you notes and hears nothing back in about 2 weeks, a polite call or e-mail inquiry at that point is totally appropriate.
I wish him – and you – much luck!
~ Ronnie Ann
Hi CL!
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, especially since you’ve been waiting so long to since your original interview.
While I know how much people need to hear back and often calling makes you feel better, the truth is when I have a candidate I am interested in…I don’t forget. This doesn’t mean you still might not be considered, but contacting them again and again probably does little good in this circumstance.
That said…if it would make you feel any better, I guess there’s no harm in e-mailing (or sending a nice handwritten note) to the person who interviewed you – especially since you haven’t been bugging them every week the way some folks do. Remember to mention that you really enjoyed meeting him and even if this job is no longer available, you’d love to be considered for another one at the company. You never know! 😉
Meanwhile…please keep looking with all the determination you can muster – on a daily basis if possible. Even a little positive action every day helps. And remember to network!!. In this market, that’s your best chance of getting a job.
I wish you much luck, CL!
~ Ronnie Ann
This is a very great blog…My husband just interviewed with a company. He had HR call up as soon as he applied.HR scheduled meeting with hiring manager next day and they scheduled onsite interview next week. They paid for his trip. His onsite interview was with 10 people including general manager and went really well he says. They also asked for references that evening and next day as reply to thank you mail. However the references havent been checked and he hasn’t hear since (after 5 business days)…Are we anxious too soon?
I assume usually positive reply should be the same day or next.
Is no news bad news?
Suspense is killing us……
Dear Work Coach
I had my second interview at 3 Dec 2009, during the interview, the interviewer said the HR would contact me at the folloing week and also mentioned that they would closed the business for 3 weeks during X’mas time.
After that interview, I received nothing in the following week. I thought that I should give them time to make their decision. However, at 15 January 2010, I found the job has been put on SEEK again. I called the HR then, but not the HR who arranged my interviews as he was still in holiday, The HR who answer my call said she would contact the interviewer and would come back to me that day. But neither she nor the interviewer came back to me.
I do like that job so much that I am not sure if I should call again.
Thanks very much for your help.
Best regards
CL
By the way…as a follow up to my point about follow ups in my comment to George:
After an Interview: Can Weekly Follow-up Calls and Emails Help Get You the Job?
Hi George!
Actually I think you handled it really well. I suggest you read my comment to Rithi, right before this one. Hopefully the post I mention will make you smile a bit. Mainly, I want you to see the part about how hard it is for a company to know when it has the right candidate. The hiring process is flawed at best, and so even good candidates aren’t always seen for all they can offer a company. But the company is most likely trying it’s best – and not playing games.
Trying to show that you have strengths where they have concerns was a good move. Although you don’t want to annoy them by writing weekly, if you don’t hear anything in about 2 weeks since you last wrote them, a very short pleasant hand-written note saying that you’re still interested and very committed to doing whatever it takes to be the best for them might be a nice touch. Other than that…just keep interviewing elsewhere and keep your fingers crossed. Mine are!
Best of luck!
~ Ronnie Ann
Hi Rithi!
I’m hoping by now you heard some good news. But you laid out the options very well. It’s true that sometimes if a company isn’t absolutely sure (and it’s so hard to be), they sometimes re-post the ad seeing who else shows up. It doesn’t mean you are not still in the running.
As for “Grade B candidate”, this post should help cheer you up a little:
How Do You Interview If Your Interviewer Doesn’t Know as Much as You Do?
Best of luck! Please let us know what happens. I’m rooting for you Rithi!!
~ Ronnie Ann
My situation is very similar to Kaity’s comment from November. I interviewed twice in the same week with a nonprofit organization in early December. I felt that both interviews went great and the interviewer said that I would hear back from her in a week. I did all the necessary follow up activities. That first week went by and I heard nothing. Then their entire office closed down from Xmas eve until the January 4th for the holidays.
I followed up again in early January to check on the status of my application and she said that they were still going through the selection process. Fine. A few days later I saw that they reposted the job announcement. So, I called back the next week and reiterated my interest in the job asked if I was still being considered for the job. She said that they were expanding their search to see if they can find a candidate with more experience in a particular area. I asked if was still in the running for the job. She basically said that if no other suitable candidates were found in the current round of applications then I would possibly still be considered.
After the phone call, I wasn’t quite sure what my next move should be. It feels a little like they’re playing games with me. I mean, if you don’t think I’m the right candidate, just say so and cut me loose! Well, I decided that until I get something in writing saying that they don’t want me, I’m going to continue to follow up. Today, I sent her some additional relevant information that did not about my experience that didn’t come up in my initial interviews. I’ll keep following up with an e-mail or phone call no more than once a week to show that my interest is serious.
Any thoughts on my situation? Do their actions seem appropriate? Am I looking at this the right way? Any insights are appreciated.
Thanks
I applied to a perfect job that matches my expertise. I had a phone interview on First week of Nov and the same day they sent me e.mail to come for on-site interview. Had on-site on 1st Dec and didn’t hear a thing back from them yet. Of course, I thanked everybody who interviewed me thro’ e.mail and sent thank you notes before Christmas. In addition, two days after my interview, they re-posted the job in internet. There is someone I know who work for the same company and he told that I might be a grade B candidate in their opinion (a gossip source, which means I’m a spare tire). Anyway, I’m waiting and started looking for some other openings. It is just awful as it is more than a month since the interview. There are 3 possibilities
1. They send me a rejection letter
2. They don’t notify me at all (However, I’ll know if someone else is hired thro’ the gossip source)
3. They want to contact my references.
Hi Belle!
Appreciate your kind words. And I think my commenters are FABulous! 😉
I have to say you caught me off guard (as I’m sure you also felt) with the request for a 15-year-old W-2. Who would ever think to ask for that! I never stop learning from my readers.
Of course, I assume the powers that be know how remote the chance is of anyone saving a stub from 15 years ago , so references and other good background stuff (this is fairly standard) will fill in the dots. And I assume Social Security keeps those records if absolutely needed, since we get yearly statements from them with “time served”.
Anyway…glad this helps. I wish you the best of luck! Fingers, legs and eyes crossed for you, Belle. It sounds very hopeful. Please let us know!
~ Ronnie Ann
I really feel better reading comments by folks in the same boat that I’m in!
I went on my job interview on December 21st. All things pointed to good: interview went very long, I was introduced to everyone and shown the facilities, got along great with the interviewer. When I left I was told that they had to interview a few other applicants but didn’t tell me when I’d hear back. The waiting was HORRIBLE but I have been trying to fill my time constructively.
So, New Year’s Eve I get a message (at 4:45 pm, mind you) from a company that does pre-employment background checking. They wanted a pay stub or W2 from a job I had 15 years ago! Geez, I only keep my tax info for the past seven to eight years. I can’t get a call back from the company and I don’t even know if they still have data on me!
I have only had two jobs in the last 14 years and both of those contacted the person checking me out. My husband said that it was a very good sign because the company wouldn’t want to waste money doing background checks unless they wanted to hire me. I can’t think of anything in my background that would red flag, so I’m gonna keep waiting and be hopeful!
Ronnie – love your posts and even the comments are great.
Hi Mike!
Sorry for also making you wait for my reply. 😉
Laughing about the resignation letter. Yes…I’m sure it will feel great writing it. Fingers crossed. For you and your family’s sake I hope that by now you’ve heard – or will soon hear – some good news.
Please let us know. GOOD LUCK!
~ Ronnie Ann
Thanks for all the posts they really helped. I’m going the the excruciating process of waiting after my interview process – it’s been 3 weeks since my initial interviews.
The Process started on Thursday, December 10th when I had my 1st face-to-face interviews with 4 people at this major communications company. After that interview that following week I was asked back to meet the executive I would report to – that interview was the best, I knew I had the job, I even asked for the job.
On Dec 18th, I got a call from the company recruiter saying it was between me and another candidate and I should know something by next week. Of course next week was Christmas and I didn’t hear anything. So I sent an email and called the Recruiter for any updates today, she has yet to respond, actually her message says she was on vacation all last week (so maybe that’s way I didn’t receive an email/call). I know they completed the background checks since I got the inquiry in the mail. Not sure if the contacted my references though.
Anyways it’s hard not to get frustrated especially since this job will finally get me away from 13 years of being road warrior with almost 100% travel to a local job where I can come to my family everyday. I damn near have my resignation letter memorized for my current employer. I’m at the point now I just want know something so I can move on with a piece of mind.
Hi again Swati!
Oh! I’m so sorry you’ve been stuck in limbo. Honestly…I think you’ve contacted them enough.
I wish there were something you could do or say at this point to convince them you are the right one, but maybe as you say the right job will still come to you – whether it’s this one or another. Never hurts to keep looking in the meantime.
I wish only the best for you. Please keep us posted!
~ Ronnie Ann
Hi Adriana!
From what you tell me, you’ve done everything you can. At this point – yes, I’m going to use the dreaded “w” word – you just need to wait. Maybe a follow-up in another week or two, but since it’s holiday time things may have cranked to a slow crawl. You are still very much in the running until you hear otherwise. Even if they made an offer to someone else, there are a few ways you can still get the job.
So for now, keep your mind diverted best you can – and just wait!
12 Ways to Stay Sane After a Job Interview
Good luck, Adriana. Please let us know what happens!
~ Ronnie Ann
Thanks a lot Ronnie Ann! I actually mailed to the HR last Saturday but I did not get any response so far.
It is a kind of my dream company and I would be happy to get at least feedback from them. I would like to share the experience I had during the interview with that company. First time when I attended the interview I did not make up my mind to take a mixed job. However, I just gave it a try. Two of their employees interviewed me and there was a difference of opinion about my selection. So I was asked to try after 6 months. I had no hard feelings as I knew that I did not do it well.
Two of my close friends working there were really shocked to know about my rejection. Anyhow should I say that luck was by my side or the company really sees the talent of individuals? I would vote for latter. I was given a second chance to have a face to face interview with their two other employees. This time I did it better, but I knew I could have done it even better. At the end of the day I was made to wait for 45mins and was informed at the HR would contact me. Had treble night, if he had told me the result I would have been happy even if it was no. I was waiting for the HR to inform me if it is ‘yes’ or ‘no’. Almost a week gone, none contacted me. Finally I called up the HR to ask for a feedback. He said he would call me back, but again 3 days gone since then. Later I called up my friend who referred me to that company. He updated me that they are confused and could not make a decision as the interviewers are having difference of opinion. They don’t want to say yes or no at this moment. So they are holding on the result.
I hope a better job waits for me elsewhere 🙂
Finally one more question: should I keep posting the HR asking for a feedback?Personally I feel that its bugging up people when they are not ready to do so.
Hi Ronnie Ann, after reading all the great advice you are giving people on your blog, decided to ask you just for a quick opinion.
Had second round interviews on 5 Nov, the feedback was great (“everybody loved you”), I was told that within 2 weeks I should know more. Followed up in two weeks and was told that “it’s very much a work in progress” and will be updated. A week after that, I sent a polite email asking for a timeline before year end, but got no reply whatsoever, which has never happened before, as these guys were quick in firing back answers. It has been a week now since the “no reply” and I have no idea if to treat this as a rejection, send another email or keep waiting as you sometimes advise.
Basically, it’s been a month since the interview and I find it hard to keep spirits up, a month is a long time if the employer really wants you.
Any thoughts for me?
Thank you!!
I did get the job! I am very excited.. Thanks!!
Oh Erika! Yay!!! From what you said, I was kinda assuming it would be good news, but always a relief to know for sure. Giant WUHOOOO!!
Best of luck. We’re all rooting for you. 😉
~ Ronnie Ann
I got the job!!! WOO HOOOO SO EXCITED
Oh Erika! I’m excited for you too.
Yes…sometimes it’s about the references and what they say. Sometimes it’s just a gut feel, especially if all candidates’ references say good things.
Fingers, legs and eyes crossed for you! PLEASE let us know. Good luck!
~ Ronnie Ann
I wonder if it just comes down to my references saying better things than the other candidates??
Thanks Ronnie! I am VERY excited.. I received an email this morning saying this will have a final decision today and asked if they could call my references!! So nervous!
Hi Rodney!
Very glad you got an interview (yay!) and it went well. If you’ve sent your thank you note already, then waiting is the name of the game. I’d actually give it 2 weeks before contacting. Sometimes it takes that long just to interview all the candidates. They haven’t forgotten you. Really! 😉
Meanwhile, you might enjoy this:
12 Ways to Stay Sane After a Job Interview
Best of luck! Please let us know what happens, Rodney.
~ Ronnie Ann
Hi Erika!
First let me say how much I appreciate your advice to Rodney. What I love most about this blog is when folks reach out to help each other. I have a big smile on my face!
Now for your questions…
Almost every company will do background and reference checking before they make an offer. It’s standard and usually if you ask about the process in the interview they’ll explain. Nothing you tell me seems off the mark since these do take time – especially around the holidays. Could take a week or even two. An offer is still very possible.
On the other hand, if by any slim chance they make an offer to someone else – there is no guarantee that person will accept. Hard as that is to believe, these things happen. 😉
But sometimes these things just take more time than even the employer expects. From what you told me, you still have an excellent chance. But I think you’ve probably contacted them enough now, so hard as it is…just wait. And please let us know how it goes.
Best of luck, Erika!
~ Ronnie Ann
Hi Swati! Sorry about the rejection. Hope the next one is the job for you!
It’s ok to send another polite note asking if you may call to get feedback to help you with your next interview. But please don’t feel bad if they say no. Some companies have no-feedback policies.
Good luck Swati! It only takes one “yes!” I hope the next time is yours.
~ Ronnie Ann
Hi Donald!
Clearly you are an astute judge of blogs. 😉 Thanks so much for the very kind words.
Congrats on doing well in the interview and using your stories wisely! (Please everyone – note how important a good well-timed story can be in an interview.)
Unfortunately, my vibe meter is in the shop. Everything you tell me sounds great. No way to guess how big a priority the language thing is, but usually an employer looks at the whole package – and while language skills can be improved, your other skills are not easily acquired.
Sounds like you have a really good shot at this – but I have to also say…there’s just no way to know for sure. From what you tell me, I would guess you are rin the top 2 or 3 – or even at the very top.
You did great, Donald. Please let us know what happens. Best of luck!!
~ Ronnie Ann
Rodney, make sure you send a thank you note to your interviewer or interviewers. Did they tell you when they would let you know? I would give it at least a week before a second follow up and its up to you whether you want to send an email or actually call them. I had a third interview and its been almost 2 weeks and they never let me know anything. I sent a follow up email today and they didnt respond. Not very professional and I am surprised because previously they had been good about letting me know whats going on. So anyway, just make sure you send a thank you note and maybe in that ask what the next step is or when you would hear back?
Hi Ronnie Ann! I thank you so much for creating this blog and most of the advice has been helpful thus far. This is Rodney, so I got an Interview and it went well. I came back for the second interview just yesterday December 2nd and it also went well but now I’m stuck in this waiting game and it is annoying my head so much. How long do I have to wait for a job? Do I call them around next week to see if the job offer is still available?
I do have one more question… If they are going to make you an offer and they want to hire you, but it is pending background, or anything for that matter.. why don’t they just tell you that???? Also do they call references and background before an offer? Could they want to hire you, not be saying anything about it and just be doing background check?? I signed off on something saying that they could do the check
Hello.. I am stressing out and all I want for Christmas is this job!! I had the initial phone screening interview, then a phone interview with the manager, then they had me come up to the job to interview and even paid for me to come out there. I met with 6 different people at different times and even sent out 6 different thank yous. One guy responded saying it was great meeting me and he felt I was a good fit. HR lady responded to me saying initial feed back was very, very positive and they would have a final decision “next week”. My interview was the Monday of Thanksgiving week. I sent another follow up email for further info and not a peep back. This company does not seem like the type to blow people off, I am thinking either the rejection letter is in the mail or they just forgot to tell me no? I am very surprised because of the feedback and them paying for me to come up to interview. Is it possible that my background check went bad ? What do I do at this point?? Is no news still good news over a week??
Hi,
I am bit confused… Hope this site helps me out of this. I had received a job rejection letter a couple of days ago. Also I replied for it thanking them. However, I feel that I should have asked for feedback from them. At this point my confusion is, can I send out a mail again to the HR requesting for feedback? I feel if I would disturb them but I am curisous to know areas of improvement expected. Kindly suggest.
Hi Ronnie Ann, I feel much better after reading through your blogs and your advice is fantastic.
My situation like those before me is of post-Interview anxiety. I went in for an interview today for a dream position within the federal government. I believe the interview went well as the boss interviewing me even used the words “I had a feeling you had that political background that we’re looking for” after I told her a work-related story/example. My big worry was of course the bilingual requirement for the position; because I am not completely bilingual; however I believe that I conveyed to her that my language skills would only get better as I was taking outside courses through agencies she was familiar with. While on the way out with the second lady of the interview, I said to her “Well I believe that went well”. She said that “Yes it did”. They told me that they are still interviewing for the position and would get back to me one way or the other (I know this was accurate as I had peaked at the interview schedule, so she wasn’t just blowing me off). I made them both laugh and they both seemed to really like me and were very pleased of what I could bring to the job, i.e. the boss lady told me “Wow you really know your stuff” at one point.
Maybe I’m freaking out but any vibes you’re getting from what I’ve told you? I would really appreciate any advice.
Oh Waiting Waiting Waiting! I’m sooo sorry you and others have to go through this. It really is one of the hardest things in any job search – other than those who never even get an interview of course. But as a friend of mine says “These are my choices?”
Holidays slow everything down – even by a few weeks or more. In the meantime, maybe this will help a little:
12 Ways to Stay Sane After a Job Interview
Please let us know what happens. I’m wishing you all the best luck. Hope to hear some good news soon!
~ Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Ann — I appreciate all the help this site has offered me. I’ve been in the waiting game for almost three weeks, and I’m about to give up.
Had a phone interview with a large communications company the first week in November. The next Wednesday, I met with the woman who would be my boss. She said she would narrow it down to three from there. The following Wednesday, I met with members of the team I would be working with, who all seemed to like me. They called my references two weeks ago today, and since then, I’ve heard nothing.
I know my references are good, the interviews went well, and the manager said she wanted this process to move quickly. Because the company is so large, I would think I would receive a phone call, email or letter of rejection, so since I haven’t heard anything I’m still hopeful. But it seems kind of silly to hope after almost three weeks since the last interview.
I did contact someone last week and asked where they were in the process. She told me they were close to a decision and would know more in a few days. If it was a flat no, wouldn’t that be the perfect window for them to tell me so?
I’m losing my mind waiting.
Hi Ebony!
The answer to the spin classes question is “As many as you need to stay sane.” 😉
I know how excruciating the waiting is. All I can say is that there are many things that can delay responses – even when the employer gives you a date when they’ll get back to you. Rather than going into every possibility (you’ll see a ton if you check out previous comments all the way back), I am forced to give you the one answer I know you’d prefer not to hear…ya gotta just wait. Spin. Sing. Meditate. Apply for other jobs. Start a blog. Do whatever you can until the answer comes.
Best of luck! And here’s a little something extra from me: ~*~*~* Hope it helps, Ebony.
Ronnie Ann
Help!!! I interviewed for a position and the intial interview with HR went well so I was passed to the technical screen and I passed that. Then I met with the CEO and CFO and that went so well that I was invited back for a second round with the CEO and CFO as well as the General Manager. I was told “good job” no one has made it this far. They checked my references last week and I was supposed to hear back this week. I started this process on October 9 and am going a little stir crazy…I don’t know how many more spin classes I can attend to keep myself busy 🙂
Hi Kaity!
Like in baseball (and opera), it ain’t over until it’s over. Sometimes a reposting means they haven’t found any candidates they want. But it can also mean they need more than one or two to interview. So you are still in the running until you hear otherwise.
I wish you much luck, Kaity. Please let us know what happens. And meanwhile…keep looking but this time with even extra determination! And please let us know how you’re doing. 🙂
Ronnie Ann
I recently had a phone interview with a company I’d definitely like to work for. It lasted about 30 minutes and the employer asked for my references at the end. Since it was a phone interview, I didn’t know how aggressive I needed to be yet I didn’t want to seem desperate (even though I am!). I perceived it as an opportunity to get to know my personality and cultural fit. I still haven’t heard from him and the morning after the job was reposted on the internet.
Hi Still looking!
I know the wait feels excruciating – each minute is like a week I think. I wish I could give you a big hug. Good news is you did all the right things and these are all good signs. Nothing more for you to do but wait. Really.
When a company moves it takes time and lots of things they need to do get backed up – not just hiring. You’ve done the best you can. Now just think positive thoughts, keep looking for jobs (it helps), and also do things to help keep the crazies away. 😉
I Got the Post-Interview Temporary OCD Blues
Good luck! Please keep us posted.
– Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie,
Great website! I was hoping that you could help me out with my situation here.
I interviewed in person for a position in a small but stable firm 10 days ago. It was more of a casual conversation with 4 people in the firm including the recruiter and the VP. I thought it went pretty great. Everyone was very nice to me and we all seemed to share a great rapport. I sent a “Thank you” email after the interview and the recruiter responded to let me know that the decision is going to be a while as they are moving into a new office. This was last Wednesday. He mentioned that they are gonna be busy last week and the whole of this week. Also, I sent across a list of my references with contact info and he responded positively to that. Am I reading too much into this, should I be worried? What should my next step be?
Please help. I have been looking for a job for a while now and this is a perfect opportunity. The wait is killing me 🙁
Hi Guinea Pig!
Thanks for the nice words about my blog. Sounds like you did really well in the interview and are doing all the right things now – including continuing to interview.
Don’t worry…most of us interviewers can remember back as far as the first interview. 😉 While a less memorable candidate might be disadvantaged in that position as far as memorability, s/he probably wouldn’t get the job anyway. Whereas a really good first candidate sets the bar for the others and is therefore remembered each time. Sometimes memory even enhances the first interview as others have to compete against it. I’ve experienced this and a variety of other types of interviews.
And as far as the interviewers not being “formal HR” folks…for many reasons that’s probably a plus!
Seriously, s’all cool. Just do your follow-up as planned and let us know what happens. I wish you much luck!
– Ronnie Ann
Wonderful site! I have an interesting circumstance that hasn’t been discussed on this site and am interested in hearing some common feedback.
I’ve been trying to get into a brand new role with a brand new PE company (established March 2009). I was able to get an interview which I had last Wednesday. The interview went very well and the role is my ideal position, however, I was the first person interviewed for this brand new role with the interviewer fairly new at conducting interviews!
Because the firm is so small (less than 10 people), there is no formal HR manager and I am directly communicating with the man I would be reporting to. The interview went extremely well, I was there for about 2.5 hours and held wonderful conversations with each of the 2 men I interviewed with. I had even received an email from the hiring manager wishing me a “Happy Birthday and how wonderful it was to meet me” as my birthday was just a few days after my interview (I think this is a great indicator that there was good chemistry between the hiring manager and myself)
My concern is that I’m somewhat of the “Guinea Pig” since I was the first person interviewed for this brand new position. While I’m confident that the interview went well, there were some parts on their end that could have been organized a little better. My other concern is that I would be the forgotten candidate as they continue to interview the other 3-4 candidates they had mentioned they the following week.
I’m still interviewing for other positions in the meantime and waiting another week before I follow-up. This is my dream role, so I’m trying to make all of the right moves. I’m curious to see if anyone else had experienced a simular experience and could shed some light.
Fingers, legs and eyes crossed for you, aks! 😉
Ronnie Ann
Hey Ronnie..
Thanks 4 ur +ve reply. even I think so I should wait for few more days as regular followups may mess up things.
Thanks 4 ur wishes…I’ll will surley let you know about any further progress…
Aks
Hi aks!
It’s a little strange that they didn’t send you a letter yet confirming the offer, but sometimes these things take more time than they would want it to – especially with all the different departments a big organization needs approval from. Give them a little more time. I’d suggest you wait until next week and if you haven’t heard by Tuesday (sometimes Mondays are hectic) it’s ok to call. But hopefully by then you will have your offer!
Good luck. Please let us know what happens!
Ronnie Ann
I had an interview with very big org. two weeks back.After my interview the tech team said..u r done through your interview and asked me to contact HR for further process. I came back and dropped an thanks email to HR very next day.The reply of HR came within an hour stating”you are selected.We will get back to you soon”. hen 2 weeks back.I again email my HR thanking for selecting me and asking about my probable date of joining. My HR replied through mail within 15 mins saying..”We will get in touch with you in a day or two surely”. Now its 3 days..no contact as of yet..what to do?
Hi again JH!
Aw! Sorry to read this, although no reply is not always a final answer since it can mean so many things – or absolutely nothing. Still hoping for you (if I may), but also get why you need to move on.
Good luck finding a great job. And…if a surprise does show up, cool. Please stay in touch!
Hi ronnie,
Just a quick update. I dropped them an email requesting for any updates. There was no reply at all. They were normally pretty quick with their email correspondences [within the day]. So I will just treat this as a rejection and move on.
Cheers
Ah! Of course. A little pixie dust:
~*~*~*~*~*
Hope that helps. 😉
Sounds like you’ve handled the whole process really well, JH. I like how you politely set up the follow-up e-mail. Very nice. Oh how I hope you get a happy surprise soon!
Best of luck!!!
Hi Ronnie,
Thanks for the reply. Basically, I did ask for the timeline to a decision during the final assessment and was told the hiring manager and HR were to be out of office last week. So I expect something this week.
They did mentioned month end. And I asked if it was fine if I drop them an email then. They were fine with that.
Hence, I intend to drop them an email on the 30th Sept Evening, after I get back from work.
I come to realised that in the hardest part of the job search process is the waiting part.
Hope your pixie dust works.
Hi Job Hunter!
Thanks for sharing your story. Wow! What a long arduous process. After all that, understandably you’re disappointed…but I like that you are still keeping a positive attitude. Tells me a lot about you.
I wish you the best. And who knows? There is still a chance. Also remember…even though there’s only one job now, even in a recession, there can be a new one around the corner. They seem to like you a lot, so just in case it doesn’t turn into a “yes”, keep your contacts warm.
Extra good luck getting this one!!
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie,
I did a little Googling and came across your blog. Great to know, there’s so many people
out there with similar situations. I recently just completed a long and tedious recruitment
process. Going through 5 rounds of interview in the time span of six months, with a big MNC.
The first interview was on April and I completed the final assessment with the hiring manager and
hr director in September. Everything went great with the final assessment, which lasted 2 hours. I felt that I was able to answer all the questions quite well. And I also asked some really good and revelant questions with regards to the position and organization
However, I can’t help coming out of the interview feeling down. Due to the recession, it had become a real employer’s market. Competition is stiff. During the final interview, I probbed the hiring manager of the number of open positions. It seemed there’s only one and he’s currently shortlisted 4 candidates
for the final assessment.
Hence after six months of waiting, 5 rounds of interview and endless waiting, I am back to a 25 percent success rate. I am still waiting for their responses and I intend to drop them an enquiry at the end of the month.
I went into the final interview with high hopes. As I did asked around with people familiar with the company and seemed like meeting the HR represents a very high success rate with the company. But it seemed like the HR Procedure is different for each position, which really puts me off. What even sets me off, was that my headhunter who arranged for the final interview, told me to prepare for salary negotiation as well. That’s also one of the reason for mmy high hopes.
In the end, everything turned out differently. Even though I handled everything quite well. I couldn’t help feeling really disappointed.
Hi Linda!
Hah! If only deputy HR people were appointed. Unfortunately, not the way it usually works . 😉
It would be fine to try again – maybe a phone call if you have the nerve. It can’t hurt since it’s been two weeks. But in the meantime, PLEASE keep applying for jobs. the best job hunts are those with lots of momentum. Don’t stop until you get the offer you want!
Good luck!!
Ronnie Ann
hi Ronnie,
I had a perfect interview almost a month ago , i even filled out a job questionaire form asking for my refernces , salary range etc . I heard nothing after 1o days,then i sent a mail and i was told that the HR head is on vacation.It has been two weeks since then , i dont know what to do should i follow up or give them more time , please advice me,also if they really need me cant someone deputize for the HR manager
Hi Susan!
Relax. You’ve done all you can at this point. Good job. All you have to do now is wait and think positively!
Sounds like they are very interested. No need to come to them with a competing offer. Of course, if one really comes through, then they’ll have to decide if they want to compete. But for now, just leave things in their hands.
Good luck, Susan! I hope to hear some good news soon. 😉
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Ann!
I am so thankful to have found this site. Here is my situation if you would be so generous as to consider it:
I am waiting to hear back from a company with whom I’ve had two successful interviews. The day after my second interview, I received a call from the HR manager asking for my references, which I gave. After a week passed without hearing from the company, I called and left a voicemail re-iterating my interest and asking if they had any trouble contacting my references. I received a call back today from HR saying that they will have a decision by the end of the week. The HR manager asked if I had any competing offers from other companies in the meantime. I replied that I am waiting to hear back from a few places. She told me to keep them updated about any other offers.
I do not expect to hear from the other places until the following weeks. My question is: Will it hurt my chances of receiving an offer from this company if I do not contact them with any competing offers by the end of the week? What should I do to best position myself to securing an offer at this point? Thank you.
Hi Josh!
There’s no way to know for sure, but why worry at this point? You might as well wait and see what the real story is. Often companies mean to get back sooner than they are able to because unexpected things come up like vacation or absences. They’ll probably contact you when they have something concrete to tell you. For all you know, the person you wrote to is on vacation.
There are other possibilities, of course, but seriously…don’t drive yourself crazy about stuff you can’t control. You gave a great job interview and have done your best. So for now, just let it go the best you can. Maybe give it another week and then, if you still haven’t heard, you could try calling the person who is your contact there. Or another e-mail. There’s nothing else you could or should do. Meanwhile…keep looking for a job every day. You never know. 😉
Good luck, Josh. Please let us know how it goes!
Ronnie Ann
Had my 2nd interview last week at a company. The interview went very well, had real personal conversation with the interviewer and laughed quiet often. Anywho he said I was the first person the VP had him meet and they he would get back to me next week with a decision. Next week has now pasted by no call. I sent a follow up email last night and still no response.
Should I be worried?? My interviews where excellent and they seem to like me. What should be my next steps next if I get no response early next week?
THANKS!!
Hi Lu!
Thanks for sharing your story. As you’ll see at the end of this post, I had to stop answering all the questions I was getting. But a quick answer is that she is very unlikely to have called all candidates and – while no sure thing – it is a good sign. So sorry for what you went through in your last job. Wish you all the best in this case. Sounds ideal. Hope you get a happy call soon!
Please let us know how it goes. Good luck!
Ronnie Ann
Hello All;
I’ve been reading through the posts and scouring the internet but have not found my situation.
Firstly, until this past year, I have never had a job interview and not been offered the position. I’ve always had wonderful reference and relations with employers. A year ago I accepted a position that I am calling career suicide. I have been harassed to the point of taking action against my boss. Six months ago, before getting to the point of taking action, I started looking for a new job. Since then I have been on interview after interview always thinking they went really well. I have the limitation of not being able to put my current reference on my resume, but have several glowing references for the same type of position. Sometimes the interviewer asks if I have my current reference, and me saying no seems to be a downfall.
Anyways, I went on two interviews two weeks ago. One position I want really really badly as it combines every experience I’ve ever had, from retail to working with children, to medical research. I was feeling pretty confident about both interviews and they both said I’d know by the end of this week. I emailed the HR person the day after my interview thanking the interviewers and also added some work experience that I hadn’t thought relevant at the time but during the interview process found out it really was relevant. The interview was a four person panel interview, and lasted two hours. The main person I’d be working with (sometimes spending six hours in a car with) is a lot like me, but seemed stand-offish. One Thursday, the HR person called me (she was in the interview as well) to ask if I was still interested, and said they still have me in mind but there have been some delays due to Easter Holidays, and they would let me know early next(this week). I joked around with the HR person because it turns out the work experience I sent, was the same place she had worked at before.
What does this mean??I felt so optimistic because they had said it would take until the end of this week but then she said she’d let me know early this week. Now I haven’t heard anything and am on pins and needles because my current contract is up soon. Is this a good sign? The HR person seems amazing at her job, so I’m not sure if that was just a standard call to all (12) candidates!
Hi Arm!
Oh how I hope you hear good news. Here’s a little something to help: 😉
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Thanks for sharing your story. Please keep us posted. Good luck!!!!
Ronnie Ann
This site is a great tool for helping to get through those tough, seemingly-endless waiting periods. I am in the middle of one right now.
I wrote to HR, received no response, then wrote (and mailed via snail mail!) to the president of the organization, who passed my cover letter and resume along to HR, who then forwarded it to the relevant department. I have had one phone interview, which went on for awhile, and was told that decisions about who to interview would be made by last Friday – “hopefully”. I haven’t heard anything, and sent a polite email inquiring about the status of my application, and haven’t heard back. I also sent a thank-you note after the interview.
The job is a great fit, and I am very enthusiastic about it. Hoping for good karma from this great website 🙂
Congrats to all of you out there who successfully got through the waiting to a job offer !
Hi Dee!
Yes…I did have to stop giving individual advice to each and every person who wrote, but agree there’s no harm in trying to contact the guy. Because it’s a law firm, though, they might have rules making such communication minimal. Don’t be afraid to call, either – and be charming as hell. 😉 At this point…what can you lose?
Good luck finding answers, but more importantly, good luck finding the right job for YOU!
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Ann –
I have a question for you: is it ever a good idea to ask a HR person what went wrong/why they decided not to hire you?
My story – I interviewed with a law firm in October, 2 rounds, all seemed to go well. This firm was actually in the process of opening a new office – I sent my resume a week after this new office opened- and they told me during the first interview that they held onto it for 5 months when the office was up and running to call me in to interview. As for the interviews, I thought all went well, and thought maybe there was a hiring freeze in place, due to the economic times. I emailed the HR guy in November as you told me to do (I wrote to you back in November after the second interview after waiting for a while and hearing nothing) and was told by the HR guy that he would contact me when he heard something. Well, that was months ago, and I haven’t heard a peep from this guy. I also took a look at their website earlier this year and saw that they have indeed hired an additional attorney. Further, I hear through the grapevine that they are recruiting through agencies.
So, being pretty clear that I have been rejected as an applicant (and I must say that the lack of rejection letters being sent by companies is terrible), want to know if it’s ok to send the HR guy for feedback. It may very well have simply not been a good fit, but if I am doing something wrong I want to know! Any thoughts?
Thanks so much! This site is awesome!
Dee
P.S. – I just realized that you are no longer giving advice any more, awww. I guess I will just send a quick email to this guy, I guess it can’t hurt.
Oh Elizabeth! I’m so sorry. As I say at the end of this post, I’ve had to stop offering individual advice, but seriously…you’ve done all you can. The rest is up to the gods of interviews. They may have another candidate they offered the job to and may be holding off saying anything because you’re their next choice, or you may be their number one and stuff just is getting in the way for final approval. No way to know.
In the meantime, you might get some solace or at least a smile from my latest post:
I Got the Post-Interview Temporary OCD Blues!
Good luck. Please let us know what happens. Oh…and for extra luck: 😉
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Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Ann.
Like everyone else, I’m so glad to have found your blog. Here’s my story. I’ve pretty much lost hope at this point.
Submitted my resume for a job and got a call from their HR about a week later to schedule a telephone interview with HR manager. Scheduled the call and the HR manager never called. I contacted scheduling person who was mortified and set new appointment. HR manager did call and the call went very well. Got a call from scheduler to then set up call with hiring manager. That call went well and about an hour later, got a call from scheduling person to set up all day in person interview. All day interview went fantastically, with the last person (VP) saying that I would likely be getting an offer. When asked about the time frame, the response was “as soon as possible”. Got home, wrote thank you notes to all parties involved and then……..nothing. Emailed HR manager about a week later to say thanks again and to ask about time frame. Nothing. Left voicemail for VP, to inquire about time frame. Nothing. That was about 3 weeks ago. They were great with their follow up during the first interviews – now, nothing. I’m a big girl and won’t freak out if I didn’t get the job, but I would at least like to know. Any suggestions, fairy dust or words of wisdom you can share?
Hi toopher!
How well we all know what you’re feeling. 😉
I wish you much luck. And here’s a little something I hope helps:
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Ronnie Ann
It has been a relief reading these conversations. I recently applied for a mid level position via an internal referral from a friend who was “fast tracked” into the company because there was a need for him. My interviews were just as fast, and they went very well, but I am yet to hear back from them, and I am of course all nervous because my friend heard back immediately. I guess the only difference I see is that my training wouldn’t starting until the end of march, where they needed him right then and there… so they’re taking their time making a decision. But still, the waiting game is agonizing! Send some pixie dust my way please! 🙂
Hi Chelsea!
My pleasure. 🙂 Thanks for sharing your story. It helps others to know they aren’t alone. I once waited 3 or 4 months for a second interview for an academic job – and I was the top candidate! Sounds like you’ve done a great job. The rest is in the hands of the pixies I guess. 😉
Good luck! Please let us know what happens. And here’s a little something extra for you:
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Ronnie Ann
What a riot, reading this site preserved my sanity through a morning of the waiting game. And it is a frustrating place to be in. I am applying for an academic job which makes it all the more frustrating as academics are not the most timely in responding to anything.
Three weeks ago I handed in a stellar resume and cover letter. After this I received a call back the next day (they told me two weeks) then they scheduled an interview the next day with the dean of the college and head of hr.
I left with confidence; negotiating a salary at the end was less than stellar but it could have been much worse. We were within 5k of each other. That ended with my saying their numbers were fine but if you could give me more that is great. I am hoping this is not a great faux pas I suppose I will find out later. They said that they would let me know either way and I should hear from them in a couple of weeks.
Other than that the interview took 2.5 hours and showed signs of almost everything I read on the ‘was it a good interview section of this blog.’ Three days later I sent a note, and 1 week after that I followed up with a call. On the phone the dean told me that corporate and hr were processing and that he did remember me and thanked me for following up. That could have been good or bad.
I was the top of the stack and the first interview. Now it is three weeks from the interview date. 1.5 weeks since I called. I’m not calling them again since they said I would hear from them; or maybe I will because waiting is no fun.
Lets hear it for the karma and pixie dust.
Thanks for providing a blog for this.
Hi Belle!
As you’ll read at the end of this post, I had to stop answering individual questions to maintain my sanity. 😉 But it does sound like you’re doing a great job on your own. Just keep the energy going. It only takes one YES. And here’s some pixie dust…I have an endless supply of that!
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Best of luck!!!
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Ann
wow, reading this site is addictive…please may i request some pixie dust??? 🙂
here is my pickle: Long story short, I’m in London, UK, and as you know the economy is awful here at the moment. I am 25 years old and have been working in the fashion industry since graduating from university. i’ve had lots of experience, and the last job I was in was a fashion pr agency. they started making redundancies in november last year, and my manager left, so my position no longer existed, so i was made redundant.
i wasn’t too upset by it, as I was naiive enough to believe the job situation in the capital wasn;t as bad as it was…it was worse!
i have been working freelance, assisting stylists on little or no pay, and i am now desperate for a full time job.
the only 2 interviews i’ve had since my redundancy were last Friday. they seemed to go quite well. one more so than the other. in one, I met with the hr woman and the head of the department, whom i’d met with a month earlier to discuss an internship placement. i was with them for half an hour and it seemed to go well. i then had to complete a writing test, which again seemed to go well, and then they walked me out, all smiles and very friendly, saying they’ll make a decision by this week. I sent the follow up e-mail to thank them, and I heard back from one saying it was lovely to meet me and thanks for coming in, but not giving anything away. i am now waiting by the phone all day begging it to ring!! i don;t know whether to e-mail again asking for an update, or will this make me seem too pushy?
things are so bad at the moment, and there are no other leads to any other jobs, so i am just resting on these two.
sorry for the loooong message, but any advice would be greatly appreciated!
thanks Ronnie Ann
Great advice, Ms. Tere. Thanks for filling in. 🙂 Although I had to make the hard choice to stop answering individual questions as the numbers grew, I sooo appreciate the wisdom from my readers. I always wanted this to be a place where we can help each other. Very glad you stopped by, Ms. Tere! Feel free to stop by any time. And of course I add my best wishes for you, Lauren.
Ronnie Ann
Lauren – Way late here, sorry about that, but I would suggest calling a contact you have at the company (or their HR dept) to find out if the position is still open. If it is, ask if you are still being considered for it. If you are, ask if there is any additional information you can provide. If they can’t think of anything, give them a number and e-mail where they can reach you if they do think of something, and ask when they expect to make their decision. Good Luck!
Ha! Great question, Chris. Although I guess an offer can be made contingent on the other stuff. Please let us know if you find out! Good luck.
Ronnie Ann
Greetings Ronnie Ann,
I had a 2nd interview with a brokerage firm last week. The interview went well. The exec asked my when I was available to start, what were my salary expectations, etc…
I was informed that a decision will be made by the end of this week. My question is how?
See, I only filled out the online application. They don’t have my references nor do they have a sign off on any background check. So how can they make an offer without this info?
Please read the comment above your comment to explain my change in policy. 🙂 But also, see comment 205 by Ms. Tere who offers her own thoughts.
Good luck, Lauren!
Ronnie Ann
Hi,
I’m so happy I found your site. I’ve been reading through it and a lot of the posts are really helpful!
So I’m hoping you can help me out with my dilemma. I went for an interview over a week ago, and they told me I would hear back the following week since they still had one more interview. I still haven’t heard back and this Friday will be the two week mark post interview. I sent a thank you letter, but how should I go about asking if they’ve chosen the person to fill the position I interviewed for??
thanks!!
Lauren
New Policy: I finally had to stop answering individual questions because, as traffic continued to increase, I was getting way too many to keep up with and stay sane. 🙂 Believe me, it was a tough decision to make, but my only other choice was to close down the blog completely – which I did for a while. But thoughts and advice from my readers are most welcome. I always wanted it to be a place where we help each other. So please feel free to add your comments or share your own stories!
Hi again Jenny V!
I would never try to coach from a distance when it comes to the decision you face. Accepting a new job is always a risk, probationary period or not – but how else do we get to move on? Only you know the answer for you. If possible, do your research to see how financially stable the new firm is.
I can however assure you it is absolutely ok to go to your current manager and just be honest about the fact that you really do love your job and would like to stay if you could, but you need more money, etc. You’ll know soon enough if there is any hope for them to counter.
Just make sure you treat both sides with respect, and if you do decide to stay, let the other firm know how sorry you are and that you never dreamed your firm would counter.
Remember to really compare what you have now versus what the other place offers both now and for the future. This is a hard but enviable choice. Good luck!
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie,
First, I do have good news to tell you. I got an offer from a learning institute! However, I’m not extremely excited! This learning institute isn’t my first choice.
I had a phone interview with the HR on Dec 3 with a global well-known language school regarding to a sales position. I received a call from the HR asking me to go for a face to face 2nd interview on Dec 10 with the center director. The interview went pretty well I think. The job ad mentioned about second language is a plus. I do have an advantage on this. I can speak two other Chinese dialects aside from English. When the center director mentioned about the company was very customer oriented, I told him about my related past experience. I used to work at a global marketing research company for over five years as a part time hotline operator when I was in college. I explained to him that therefore I had very solid customer service skills. I felt that we did agree a lot on the importance of providing good customer service. Also, he said the staff was very diverse there. Most staff aren’t Americans. Well, I’m a Chinese, so I’m not sure if this is an advantage.
The center director was very nice the whole time. He explained a lot about the position and we talked for almost an hour. He said he’d let me know by the following week which is this week. He said this position should start from Jan. I didn’t hear from him til this Tue, so I decided to email him and ask him some questions about the position in the morning. To be honest, I don’t really concern about the answers. All I was trying to do is to see if he will respond and if he will mention what statues I am at. I got a reply from the center director the same day afternoon. He answered my questions and said ‘We are still in the process of interviewing other candidates we will get in touch with you if we make a decision.’ I replied him telling him that I really like the diversity of the programs and staff of this company and I was very interested in this position.
The start date of my offer with the learning institute is Jan 2, so I still have quite a bit of time to wait for the reply from the language school. However, the language school is my first choice, I want it very badly!!! I really wonder when are they gonna get back to me. ?_?
Oh my! Just received an email from the boss of the learning institute asking me to do some self study about the products over the holidays! Really don’t want this offer!T_T
Sorry for writing such a long story! I look forward to hearing your advise.
My references were all contacted as of today ..and apparently it went fabulously.
With respect to the economic woes..I am actually writing from Canada which is just beginning to feel the wrath of the current state of recession. I am in Alberta, and although it has primarily effected the Oil Workers, it is my hope that it does not effect my industry too hard. That being said, my question is this – Regardless of the great salary increase, profit sharing etc – do you think it would be safe to accept a position like this which involves probationary period etc. when I know I that I have job security where I am? I would like to know your views on this.
Also, because of that question lingering in my mind I am considering going to my Managing Partner if I receive an offer, with the offer, and seeing if we can negotiate something that can keep me in my current position (which I know and love) yet increase my ever so needed cash flow. (unfortunately my main motivation for change of employment at this moment) Your imput on exactly how to present this to him would be great. We do have a fantastic working relationship and I have time and time again shown loyalty to the firm, so I am hoping that this would not color his view of me. Help!!
Hi Jenn!
What wonderful news. This is very positive and tells me they are actively pursuing your candidacy with the hopeful intent of making an offer. Seems to me you made the magic! 😉
Thanks for sharing this with us. Helps everyone remember that, even amid all the very real economic woes, business still goes on and jobs happen. Hopefully yours will happen SOON!
Oh…and here’s a little extra pixie dust for good measure: ~*~*~*
PLEASE keep us posted.
Ronnie Ann
OK, that pixie stuff must work.
This morning (when I was least expecting it) I received an email stating “Just a bit of an update for you – my apologies for the length of time this seems to be taking. Not sure if it’s the season or some other reason, but it has extended itself.
I’m am still trying to connect with a couple of your references. Left a message again this morning for X – she is out of the office until tomorrow. Did get in touch with X but she was on her way into an interview and will call me back this afternoon.
Wanted to make sure you were aware that I was still working on this. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me. ”
I then emailed her back thanking her for the update and was very happy to hear that things were in process. – she then responded with “Yes, we haven’t forgotten about you and I will be in touch again as soon as I have something to pass along.”
So, although I don’t have the position yet, the fact that she contacted me seems very positive and favourable!! thanks for that little bit of magic!!!
Jenn
Hi Jenny V!
I can well understand your concern. It all feels so nebulous and totally uninterpretable. 😉 My best advice is not to read anything into anything at this point. Especially when things slow down soooo much at this time of year.
Since you say most of your contact has been via e-mail, this might be a very good time to make a call and see how things stand. You have nothing to lose and at least will find out what’s happening. If there is a glitch or there are budget cuts and the position was delayed (hopefully none of that is the case), they will probably tell you. But more likely, it’s just the SOSO ( same old same old) process stuff that gets us all!
It sounds like a great opportunity, Jenny V. I wish you much luck. Oh…and here’s a little something to help:
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Ronnie Ann
Thank very much for advice!!
My primary concern is that although at least 2 of my references have left messages, none have been returned yet (to my knowledge) when these were supposed to be complete by Thursday of last week. Also, with reference to the VM that one of them left as above noted, they thought this may have been all they needed to hear. Is that a possibility? I would assume they would actually have to speak with them directly and ask a series of set questions.
Also, my primary correspondence with them (and there has been quite a bit) has been via email. If I DO NOT have the position, do you think they would simply put a letter in the mail and not directly call me or email when they know I have been quite anxious for a decision? This to me would seem quite unprofessional. The lack and delays in communication on their part is also beginnning to make me question the company itself.
I also did not mention that I am presently working as an Executive Legal Asst. in Crim. Law, but am looking to advance – this seemed to be the perfect opportunity (and the only one I applied on). It is a 10k difference with profit sharing so I am really, REALLY hoping for this. How about some of that pixie dust???!
Hi Jenny V!
Not sure, but just sounds like you are caught up in very mundane but oh-so-frustrating process stuff. No matter what they might want to do, they have to cross every t and dot every i. Even after they get all the references, sometimes the company then has to then send the complete package containing all the feedback, etc. to various offices for THEIR sign-offs. More time. More waiting game.
But so far you’ve been given very positive signs and, unless there is something we don’t know, sounds like all you have to do now is focus on anything else and wait for them to contact you. It’s out of your hands but seems very hopeful.
Please let us know when you hear. Of course there’s no guarantee at this point, but I do love good news. 😉
Good luck!
Ronnie Ann
Hi there,
I applied on a position for a Legal Assistant with a very large Litigation/Corporate Law Firm back in early November and was called back almost immediately for an interview. I went in for my first and it went very well. I did follow up with a “thank you” email and was contacted about a week later for a second interview.
The second interview went even better than the first (I really connected with the office manager) and again sent a follow up thank you email.
After not hearing anything for a week 1/2 I called back and was informed that the 2nd recruiter/interviewer was on vacation and that she was waiting her return to make final decisions. She went as far as to mention offer letters, when I could start, and the salary they were prepared to offer me.
After not hearing anything yet another week later, I followed up once again and was told they would be doing reference checks. I then gave my ref’s a head’s up and from what I understand was only able to actually speak with just one of them. The other’s had been playing telephone tag etc. On Wednesday of last week, I was emailed that they should be finishing up ref checks by Thursday and that they would be in touch very soon. I know that that at least 1 of 2 of my remaining ref’s has not been called back as of yet – although she did leave a message stating ” that she would be very happy to provide a reference for me as it was a pleasure to work with me and I have grown tremedously in my skill set etc etc”.
It is now Monday, and I have heard nothing. Any ideas what is holding up the process??
Thanks in advance!!!!
It’s been an absolute pleasure, Chris. Love the way they responded to your note. Says so much about who they are as people. And your boss sounds great!
Best of luck, Chris.
Ronnie Ann
Thanks for the great responses. Best of luck to ya. I also spoke to my boss. He said he forwarded my thank you letter to other partners because it was very professional and well put that it brought a smile to the members of the firm. He advised me to enjoy and not think of work until I start and we’ll get rolling. It’s been great. Thanks so much.
Hi Mary!
This is an interesting variation of the waiting game.
Since salary was discussed an agreed upon and some actual initial training took place plus you said you got very good feedback, it seems as if the dentist is serious about having you there. Someone should be calling you soon to arrange the actual start date. But I understand your hesitancy.
You’re right that Thanksgiving (and sometimes the week after) can be a time when these kind of discussions wind up getting delayed. At this point, though, it would be totally appropriate for you to call her and ask if there is anything else you need to do to prepare for the job AND whether this is a firm offer so you can stop looking elsewhere. (Say that with a smile in your voice.) It’s also ok to ask if she has a better idea of when your first day will be.
You need clarity and the best way to get this is to actually talk to her. E-mail communication can leave things up on the air. You need to have your questions answered by the one person who knows the answers! (But a follow-up e-mail after that discussion, restating your understanding and asking if this accurately represents what she told you, would be a great way to get some of this in writing.)
Congratulations on finding a way back into the world of work. I hope this leads to an exciting new career. PLEASE let us know how things turn out. 😉
Good luck!
Ronnie Ann
Great new Chris! Wuhoo!!! Stories like yours make my day – and I assume bring a smile to your fellow job seekers. It really does sound perfect for you.
Your mom must be so proud of you. How great you can help. I know how good that feels.
Thanks for letting us know. And best of luck in your terrific new job!
Ronnie Ann
Hey Ronnie Ann,
Thank you for the encouraging words. No sooner did I read them that I got an e-mail from a partner telling me that he wanted to extend an offer. mid 50k’s, not bad for a college grad. My heart has stopped pounding and it’s just calming. I really feel at ease. I’m going to work my butt of so that my first job will either be my last or a door opener with amazing relations and recommendations. I can’t wait. I really wanted to start a career in auditing and was worried that I’d have to tough it out for a few more years or that I wouldn’t get a job I’d love and get stuck. This seems perfect for me. Also, I can stop worrying my mom’s financial and help her out ^^ (she’s a single working mom, so I’m happy to pitch in finally). Thanks again and I hope my story was at least a good read. Take care and best wishes to everyone who reads.
– Chris
Hi Ronnie,
My question is this. I applied for a part time to start full time soon in a medical/denist office a couple of weeks ago. I have 10 plus years in the legal secretary field and about 4 months ago was let go because they found someone younger and cheaper. I got a first interview at the dentist office which went “really” well. She knows my brother and sister in law and the kids who are patients of hers. She showed me the computer programs and we talked for a good hour when we discussed that even though I didn’t have a lot of experience in a medical office she said thats what training is for. She wanted me back the next day for the temp she had for a maturnity leave position which I will be helping with to show me the ins and outs of the office. It went super well and she said to me I don’t know what you got in your other positions but we can start you off at “/” which I said ok. She also made the temp show me the different programs that I would be working on and made me do a couple entries and was very pleased. My question is this. I am going to be helping with a lady who is coming back from maturnity leave and the dr. said she has to hold the position until she comes back (in a week or so). The DR. Said at the end of the 4 hour day after showing me the offices and the computers that she “would be in touch with me”. She seemed very excited and willing to have me. I would like to hear your thoughts. This was the Thursday before Thanksgiving and im sure nothing happened the week of Thanksgiving. What are your thoughts. Thank you. Mary
Hi again Chris!
Ah yes…the stress of looking for a job in a recession. I graduated into one of those myself – but I survived. 😉 As I tell people…you only need one job, no matter what the economy is like.
From what you tell me, considering the duration of the interview and the feedback you’ve gotten, you did really well. To paraphrase Sally Fields at the Oscars…they like you! They really like you. 🙂
Although, of course, nothing is for sure until there’s an offer in your hands. Still nice to know the competition is thinning out. There is no standard waiting time no matter what the size of the firm; both small firms and large firms have their own processes and hoops to jump through. While it’s true a smaller firm should have less hoops, they still hire to the beat of their own drummer.
Since you’ve already e-mailed notice of your continued interest, the only thing left right now might be to try to get through to a live person (I wouldn’t leave a VM in your case). I hope somewhere in one of your communications you mentioned that you’ve thought about their firm since the interview, and realized how much you’d like working for a smaller firm (have a few reasons if asked) and hope very much that you get the chance to work with them.
Other than that…not much else you can do. In fact, too much contact that quickly can be a turn-off. So other than a live phone contact and maaaaybe one more short polite note, you are relegated to join the many noble others in the waiting game. But I hope not for long!
Good luck. PLEASE let us know.
Ronnie Ann
Thanks for the quick response to let me know; in fact that’s the kind of feedback I’d like to get from certain firms. I recently sent out 2 e-mails to show interest and tried to contact HR, but she was out of the desk and I hit the machine. I also found out that a fellow colleague had an interview with the firm in December, but will be canceling because he has a job opportunity he will be accepting. I guess my odds just went up and, considering the firm is still interviewing, I can assume they are also exploring options. Your input is still highly welcome and I look forward to it. Thanks a lot.
Hi Chris!
I understand the stress!! With apologies, hope you can wait a day or two for my real response. A bit hectic at work and I want to give you a full response…but in the meantime I will say your instincts are excellent. 🙂
Back to you as soon as I can…
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie,
Reading through your site, it seems you give great feedback and I was wondering if you had a take on my situation.
The first round interview lasted 40 minutes (during a 30 minute on campus time slot). I guess it went really well. I had a 2nd round interview Tuesday (2 days before Thanksgiving) and it began at 1 PM (I was notified on a Sunday e-mail about two weeks after the first round).
This is a small CPA firm and I spoke with two partners and an employee. I even took a quick test (basic math and English). At the end of the day, the members seemed to really like me and the main partner even said that they were “looking for a December graduate” (which I was). A lot of smiles and they shared a lot of personal history and were interested in my aspirations. The partners constantly made things clear as to what they can offer me and what they cannot.
It has been exactly a week and I was considering e-mailing or calling to show further enthusiasm for the job (I had very little knowledge about smaller firms and might have sounded more biased towards working at a larger company). Also, I wasn’t given a formal time frame. However, the firm was closed for Thanksgiving.
I guess my questions are, should I e-mail to offer perhaps recommendations or further documents “if necessary”? Also, should I ask for a time line? Finally, do smaller firms (roughly 20 people) take longer to make offers? In my mind, it should be faster, but I don’t know.
Any suggestions would be appreciated and would make me last another day. Being a college graduate in this economy is stressful =/
Hi Paul!
Thank you SO much for the update. Sounds like you did GREAT!
I also don’t want to get your hopes up unreasonably, but I will say it sounds very hopeful. I love that you gave them the five reasons to hire you. That was a cool way to grab their attention and be remembered. The fact that they are impressed with your technical skills is a big plus.
It’s true…anything can still happen. You never know who the other interview(s) are with or who they know 🙂 , but I can assure you you’ve done the best you can and no one can do better than that.
Now you just have to figure out how to keep yourself sane until you hear their decision. 😉 I have my fingers, legs and eyes crossed for you.
GOOD LUCK!
Ronnie Ann
Update: I had my 2nd interview on 11/20 with staff members. The interview lasted about 1 hr and interviewers asked me alot of question about my past expreiences. I gave them sample of my work. I even gave them the top 5 reasons why they should hire me. They love that alot. After the interview, the hiring manager asked me if I was still interested in the position. I told her that I wanted the position more than ever. We discussed my salary range. She asked if I looked at the benefits plan. She also told me that they checked my references and also received one internal refrerence on me. She said a decision would be made the following week because she has to finish up the remaining 2nd interviews. Her team really seemed like tthat they were impressed with my reporting/data skills. I am excited, but after reading some of the comments on your blog, I learn that I better bring myself back to earth because I still may not get the job.
Hi Ray!
Tanks for the lovely words about my blog. And welcome to the waiting game. 😉
In most cases like yours, you really don’t have to do anything more. For top positions (OK…most positions), they don’t forget. Especially after a candidate has reached the point where you are.
But…if you’re an action person (and it sounds like you are), it might be a good idea to give the hiring manager a call after you’ve waited a couple of weeks since the last contact. There could be some internal hang-ups – or things could be moving along nicely according to their normal processes.
But often a call can help get things moving even more nicely! At the very least, you can get a feel from what he tells you as to how serious they are about you.
Good luck! Hope you nail this job. Please let us know. We love to celebrate.
Ronnie Ann
Dee,
Thanks. I look forward to it. Best of luck!
Ronnie Ann
What a wonderful blog! I am a successful professional that is very amibitious. I recently applied for a senior position in a national company and am waiting to hear back after going through 2 interviews and a corporate assessment. The hiring manager assured me he would contact me, but as previous people on this blog have said…I am starting to second guess myself and the questioning process that is taking place.
Is there anything I should do rather than just wait?
ray
…wonderful advice; thank you so much. I will keep you posted!
Hi Paul!
Nice news. This is all good. Sometimes a company narrows it down to two people and then brings each one in again to see which one is the best fit. Since you’re meeting with team members, this makes total sense.
They’ll probably be looking at your technical skills as well as how you would be to work with. You want to be gracious and show you are a good listener as well as someone who can be trusted to handle assignments well. Think about the kinds of qualities and personality traits you’d want to see if you were hiring the person!
I wish you much luck. Please let us know how it goes.
Ronnie Ann
Hi Dee!
Thanks for the kind words about my site. Much appreciated. Also glad it gives you a place to get out your understandable frustration!
Honestly, it sounds like you’re doing really well considering how process-challenged the firm seems to be. The fact that they saved your resume and all the good feedback tells me they are very serious about you. Yes…the economy is a potential landmine, but since you got good feedback as recently as last week, things still look hopeful.
Think of waiting time as something like dog years – each week for you feels like a day to them! Since you know how slow they are, my best advice is to mark 2 weeks from today on your calendar and, if you haven’t heard anything by then, CALL him. It’s totally ok. In fact, it often gets the wheels rolling.
And, if it feels right to you, you might want to send a simple card right away with a handwritten note to the same HR person thanking him for getting back to you and saying you look forward to hearing from him again, hopefully with positive news.
Other than that, you join the noble others in the waiting room. Hopefully, not for much longer. You’ve certainly paid your waiting dues!
Best of luck, Dee. I have my fingers crossed for you.
Ronnie Ann
Update: I received an email today asking me to come into meet with several members of the team. I guess I am confused. The hiring manager said that she is currently conducting 2nd interviews, but the HR assistant told me that the position is between me and another candidate. Can someone give me some feedback?
Hello –
So, this seems to be the place for anxious souls such a myself, awaiting news of an offer, so here goes:
I apparently sent out a resume in the spring (of which I have no recollection) for an attorney position at a small satellite office of a national firm. I was contacted by the HR guy at the end of September for an interview at the main office. Seems that the sattellite office had recently opened 2 weeks before my resume landed on their desk. The interview about a week later at the main office I thought I bombed; I was terribly nervous because this firm is awesome and I can foresee big things in working there (I met with the HR guy, an associate and the managing partner, who I believe does the hiring). Lo and behold, I get an email 2 days later from the HR guy, inviting me to a second interview at the satellite office (I was also asked for a writing sample). This time, about a week later, I met with 2 other associates and the HR guy again, and I thought the interview went very well. The HR guy even walked me through the office to show me the view of the river from the office windows. Also, during my second interview, the HR guy tells the associates the managing partner made it a point to hold my resume for months until they were ready to hire for the satellite office. I’m thinking this is all good, right? This occurred about mid-Octoberish.
I heard not a peep from the firm. It is not uncommon for law firms to not send rejection letters or otherwise contact a candidate (which I think is terribly rude), so I had written them off emotionally, until a friend advised me to call the HR guy to re-express my interest and check in (I, being a chicken and not wanting to piss off the guy, opted for an email). It’s Halloween by this point.
Nothing. Until, last Thursday, I get an email from the HR guys, saying he is sorry it has taken so long and he is waiting for to others to get back to him, and he wil contact me when he learns more…..who the others may be I have no clue, I thought I met all the decision-makers.
So now I feel a bit better, but still freaking a bit. This firm is exactly what I need to get my career out of a rut, not to mention it’s very prestigious and 10 minutes from my home. In other words, I’m sweating them really hard. 🙂
Any thoughts? I understand that 1) they seem to take they’re time with things and 2) the economy the way it is lately may give them extra pause to hiring right now. Any light you can shed would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Great site, by the way.
Dee
Hi Paul!
Sounds like you’ve done all the right things so far – including continuing to interview. Smart! Having worked for an IT area in a large organization for many years, I can tell you these things often take more time than either the applicant or hiring department would like.
Although I can’t speak for the company in question, where I work, even after all the reference/background checks have been done, there are still areas that need to sign off on the decision. But if someone is out sick or on vacation, an offer can be delayed. Or, if this is part of a project and they are trying to get a few other hires lined up, that can also enter into the picture.
The fact that they actually did the reference/background checks certainly looks good for you. We usually only do that for the finalist, although some places may do it for more people. Of course, there may have been something in the background check or they may have made an offer to someone else and are waiting to hear back, but my guess is you are still very much in the running.
You’ve been wonderfully patient, and, at this point, it would be fine for you to simply call the person and ask your status as politely as possible. This is totally acceptable.
Good luck Paul! Hope you get the job. Please let us know.
Ronnie Ann
I had an interview on 10/28 for a data management consultant position. I met with the director of the department. We had a great interview and I gave several samples of my work. She seemed to be impressed by my skills set. But it has been 3 weeks and no word on a decision. I did send a thank you and follow up email, but no response. I did find out from a HR assistant who worked for me in the past that she put in a good word for me with the director. She also said that they completed the reference and background check. Can anyone help me get a read on this? I am not putting all my eggs in this job. I am still out there interviewing other positions.
Hi Lowell!
Congrats on the face-to-face! Patience gets easier the more you practice it. But your instinct to take responsibility for your own fate and ACT is also a very good one. Finding the balance is an art! 😉
Good luck. Please let us know how it turns out.
Ronnie Ann
Ronnie Ann,
Thanks for the advice. I have since had another telephone interview and now have a face to face scheduled for this Friday. It’s looking good – thanks for helping me to learn patience!
Hi Lowell!
First, congratulations on a good phone interview. Hope it turns into a good job! 😉
I’ve given your question some thought. Part of me said “Why not go ahead and call him or her?” But then I remembered some places where that would have left a bad impression, despite the initiative it shows.
A week isn’t that long. Sometimes the phone interview phase takes a few weeks all on its own. And then they have to decide whom to call back, which can involve more time getting everyone to clear their schedules to do that. So the fact that you haven’t heard back yet is no indication of anything.
I think I’d wait until next week, and, if you haven’t heard anything by then, call the internal recruiter. It’s better office politics. Now if you can’t reach/ don’t hear back from the recruiter, then you could very politely and “naively” contact the hiring manager. You could say you haven’t heard back yet from the phone interview and aren’t sure if you were supposed to contact her/him but if so, want to let her/him know how interested you are in the company and to please let you know if there’s anything more you need to do right now. Might help and couldn’t hurt.
Good luck. Please let us know what happens, ok?
Ronnie Ann
Hi tyler!
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. My own work issues got in the way. 🙂
I never cease to be astounded when I hear stories like yours. And, while it isn’t standard, it does happen. Of course, I can’t tell whether you really got eliminated or they are just doing that corporate secrecy thing where they say nothing until they all agree on the answer. Either way…I’m not thrilled with this kind of behavior from a hiring company. And unless there’s a really good explanation, I’d think twice about working for them.
Still…while I wouldn’t count on this job by any stretch, I would stay open to hearing their explanation if there is one. Just in case. But in the meantime, you did all you could and you might as well let it go and move on.
Thankfully you have a job. Any chance you can take this new-job energy and try to create a new job opportunity for yourself there? Sometimes what doesn’t seem obvious at first shows up when you have a new perspective. Just a thought.
I wish you MUCH luck. Sure wish I had some magic potion to get employers to do the right thing! 😉 Please stay in touch.
Ronnie Ann
Hello Ronnie Ann,
I am waiting patiently after a good telephone interview with an internal recruiter. At the end of the interview, I was told that I would get a call from the hiring manager. That was a week ago.
My question is if it would be okay to call the hiring manager directly? Or should I only followup with the recruiter?
Good Morning Ronnie Ann…
thanks for your reccomendation and kind words….as a quick follow up to my original message: I followed your reccomendation and attempted to give both the HR director and the CEO phone calls, and like I anticipated the calls went directly to voicemail and have not heard anything back…..interesting enough the job is still posted on their web site, so I am thinking it is a safe assumption that I was not selected….
I just am finding it hard to believe that after 20+ of interviews that I simply wouldn’t hear anything back at all….maybe I should look at it as a good omen in some way, would I really want to work for a company that had values like that?….thank goodness I am currently employed with a company that I have been with for 10+ years I guess…
Any final thoughts/reccomendations on next steps, or have you witnessed situations like this where the canidate just simply never hears anything back?
Hi Sophie!
Sorry to be so late in getting back. Hard balancing my new consulting job with the blog. But although you are the last for me to get back to, you are definitely not the least!
I’m hoping that, for reasons we’ll never know (although it could be the pixie dust 😉 ), all this turns out to bring you to exactly the right job!
So, without further ado:
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Best of luck. I have a feeling something good is coming soon! Please let us know when it does.
Ronnie Ann
Hi tyler!
Wow. I can well understand why you’re feeling the way you are. You were given green lights all the way along and seemed to be one of the top candidates, and now no one has even contacted you or answered an e-mail all this time? You have the patience of a saint. 😉
Although on the surface it looks like they may have gone with someone else and not had the courtesy of informing you (this is shameful if true), there are also other possibilities such as emergency situations that delayed the decision or the economy leading to the position being put on hold. (Still, they should have let you know.) But before giving up, I would at least call the person I had the best rapport with, and, if they don’t take your call, try until you get someone. Better to find out now than to be left wondering.
Hope you get a good surprise. As unlikely as it may seem, you could still be in the running. But if you aren’t, hope you recognize how close you came and use that energy to set your mind on nailing the next one.
And don’t forget…a NO now could be the beginning of a YES next time. So if you didn’t get the job and still want to work there, then make sure you let them know you are still interested and will redouble your efforts to let them know you would be a great addition to their company! (Assuming you still want to work for folks who left you hanging, of course. Once you get the details, you can better weigh these factors. Who knows? You may even have lucked out!)
Please let us hear what happens, tyler. GOOD LUCK!
Ronnie Ann
Congratulations Steve! Sorry I’m late in getting back to you, but looks like things worked out from the OLD pixie dust. 🙂
Jobs have so many factors that are not quantifiable the way money is. Hope this one brings you much happiness and positive growth in ways you never imagined!
Best of luck. Oh…and here’s a little something for the new job…
~*~*~*~*~*~*
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Ann,
Final update: I’ve accepted their original offer since they said they couldn’t do anything else.
Many thanks for your great advices and terrific support Ronnie Ann!
Hi Ronnie Ann,
Got an offer yesterday but it is the same salary and bonus as my current position, so i’ve asked if there is something they could do and i’m now back to square one….
I hope i didn’t messed up anything….
I could use a bit more of the special pixie dust 🙂
Oh, and sorry I failed to mention it, but my last direct communication with anyone from the hiring company was 6 + weeks ago…
Hi Ronnie…
I sure could use some advice…
Beginning in early August I began the interview process for a job that I really want. The process seemed to be going along very smoothly, I spent an entire day at the Corporate Offices during the first round of interviews and enjoyed a 2+ hour lunch with the CFO.
The HR person called me several days after the first round and asked if I would be available to go through another round the following week which would include dinner with the core mgmt. team, and although I was on vacation and several hours away I made the necessary adjustments and was able to make the time available. This round of interviews and the dinner went well and I was told that there would “only” be one more round.
Several days after the dinner round, I was asked to once again come to the corporate offices and spent 5+ hours meeting with the same folks, at the end of that time I asked the HR rep “how are things going, do you think you are close to making a decision” and was told that yes in several days they would make a decsion..
Since then, not a word….I have sent personal notes to everyone I met with in an attempt to reconnect and have not heard anything…
Just wondering, should I just give up on this opportunity?…I mean after 25+ hours spent in interviews, should I at least expect that someone would let me know even if I wasn’t the choice?
I am very confused and would welcome your perspective.
thanks
Hi Ronnie Ann,
I just wanted to let you know what happened with the position I was hoping to interview for at the beginning of the month. Instead to telling me that they did or didn’t want me to fly in for the interview, they emailed to let me know that the position was now on hold. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised given the economy right now. They said they would be in touch with me when it re-opens.
In other news, I’m interviewing in-person and out of town for another job today after an initial phone interview and waiting to find out today about another position. I’d love some more pixie dust!
Thanks!
Hi Steve!
Fear not. Although I don’t have a crystal ball to know for sure what’s happening, background checks can sometimes take a while. Also, if they do want to make an offer (hope hope hope), some companies have to go through approval channels, which takes time. So in this case, as a good friend of mine always says, no news is no news.
I wish you much luck, Steve. Please let us know how things turn out. And here’s some extra special pixie dust just for you. 😉
~*~*~*~*
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Ann,
It’s has been a week since they started doing a background check and while they called 3 out of 4 of my references, still no news……
I could use some of that little PIXIE DUST 🙂
Hi Christina,
There are two very important qualities that will help you now and throughout your career: patience and the ability to put yourself in the other person’s shoes.
I understand how frustrating this can be, but through your own efforts you already found out that the boss was returning today. I don’t think you hurt yourself and I realize you’ve probably never been in her situation, but you jumped the gun a little by calling so soon. You could have gotten more out of the effort if you had just waited a couple of days.
When an executive has been away, e-mails build up…sometimes there are one or two HUNDRED waiting the day you return. Seriously! Even if your try to answer some of the key ones while away (and remember she took the time to answer you), you still save the majority to deal with more fully when you get back. Add to that all the backed up meetings her staff and colleagues need her to attend and problems they need her to deal with, and the day she gets back is a madhouse where she hardly has a second to herself. Not a day when most executives think about an ongoing hiring process.
So when a person has been away, think about what things are like for them. Also think about when you might actually be able to get some of their focused attention. Probably smartest to give them a day or two before bugging them or their assistant (who is trying to help her boss balance the madhouse). Especially when you already had communication from the boss. (Which I hope you answered politely as soon as you got it, thanking her for taking the time to answer while on vacation. That shows you are thinking about her as well as you. A good trait in a potential employee.)
Also, I wonder why you are so frustrated by their lack of communication when you know she was away and even took the time to let you know you are still in the running. That’s a good sign. This isn’t subterfuge or some attempt to lead you on. They just haven’t made their decision yet. That’s all. It’s quite normal. I once waited 3 or 4 MONTHS – patiently, with a few polite e-mail exchanges where I wasn’t answered immediately – and I wound up being their top candidate!
I know it feels unfair and I know time passes waaay slow when you’re waiting to hear back. But you’ll only hurt yourself now or down the road if you can’t learn to be patient and trust in the process – and yourself. You really have done your best. Now please back off or you’ll scare them away. OK?
Either it’s the right match or it isn’t. But there is nothing more you should do right now except relax and wait. This really is the time to rent your favorite movies or take up knitting or ballroom dancing or something like that 🙂 to help you get through!
I apologize if this answer sounds a little strong, but for the rest of your life in the world of business (and even elsewhere) you will go much further if you just remember patience and the ability to put yourself in the other person’s shoes.
Oh…and just in case you don’t get this…send the best handwritten note you ever wrote letting the boss know how much you enjoyed meeting her and, although you didn’t get this job, you wish her all the best and hope she’ll consider you for the next opening. But hopefully that won’t be necessary and you’ll get the offer!
Best of luck, Christina. Please let us know what happens. And please…just wait now…please. 😉
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Ann,
ARGH! I’m so frustrated… I sent another follow up email to the boss (i know she gets back to work today) and her assistant admin person who does the arranging of interviews etc and no reply so i couldn’t stand it anymore and called this assistant admin person as i didn’t wanna bother the boss (being her first day back).
The assistant basically said that she honestly doesnt know abt any updates as they haven’t put their heads together to gather all the applicants CV/resumes etc and would email me again later this week. The boss usually doesn’t take that long to email me back by she hasn’t yet 🙁
Do you think its a lost case and i should look at other possible jobs (very hard though as im looking to relocate)? by end of this week it would be week 5 and i’m beginning to lose hope… i hate it when they said u are in the running but may be just stringing u along….
Sorry for the rabbling… just so upset and know that i can find a little bit of peace here…
thanks for listening!
Hi Christina!
Glad my words helped even if only a little. Not saying this really does anything, but here’s a little good luck fairy dust just in case…
~*~*~*
My best wishes. May you find a terrific job just meant for you!
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie!
Thanks for your very encouraging reply. Just what i needed to make me feel better. Hopefully everything would turn out ok and my worries won’t be in vain. Right now i need all the luck i can get.
Christina
Hi Christina!
I understand how frustrating this feels to you, but as I’ve written before, time flows differently on the other side. What feels really long to you or anyone waiting, flies by in the hectic world of business. I know it doesn’t feel fair, but this is totally normal. 😉
If someone key to the decision is away from the office (and remember this could be a medical emergency or something else that has taken her away) and she takes the time to e-mail you back, it means you really are still in the running. Her estimate of a week is based on her best guess. But since she was away from the office, anything could have happened. These are estimates. Never take them as absolutes either in interviews or day-to-day business!
Please relax. This is the time to be patient and just let the process happen. Even if it takes two more weeks! Companies have lots of things going on at the same time they’re hiring, and often the hiring decisions get pushed to the side while putting out immediate fires.
You’ve done the best you could, Christina. Either you’ll get it or you won’t. Focusing on it this strongly isn’t going to help on bit, and it’s only making you more unhappy. Your job now is to think positively and wait. And to keep looking for other jobs! This is NOT the time to lose momentum. Sometimes a surprisingly better job (or the job you’ve been waiting for) comes along when you stop fretting and focus yourself on positive action!
Best of luck! Please let us know what happens.
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie,
I, like others who have posted on this webpage am in the waiting game. Its so frustrating!!!
About a 2.5 months ago, I sent my resume in response to this job posting for a large company via the internet. They emailed me 3 weeks later to arrange for a phone interview (this is an overseas job posting and i really what to relocate to this place due to family commitments) with one of the senior managers. The interview went well enough with him saying to hear from them again to arrange for a second interview with one of the bosses. True enough, a few days later, the secretary emails to follow up for a second interview.
The second interview went ok (an hour long) but could be better, although she did mention that my answers to her interview questions were generally good and she said that they would take about 2 weeks to get back to me as they have other candidates. After the interview, I sent a thank you email to which she replied promptly saying thanks for my interest and that she would be in touch asap.
After 2 weeks, still no response, no emails or calls. I emailed her (the boss) briefly asking her on the results of the interview to which i realised (auto reply) that she was on leave currently. She however replied to my email 2 days later (on sunday) that they had a lot of interest in the position and that they are still reviewing all candidates and that i’m still in the running and that will get back to me within the next week.
Its now almost friday (i know she only gets back to office from leave next week though), all still no response!!!! its so frustrating and i really want this job!
Do you think its a lost case? I mean if they really wanted me wouldnt they have notified me already??
So sorry for the long comment but i’m just so frustrated and depressed over this!
Hi Penguin!
Thanks for the kind words. Glad the blog has been helpful. I do try. 😉
This is a really tough one. You have a sure thing with a deadline next Monday, and one that’s a maybe you really like (as far as you know) with no deadline and no for sure job. In this economy, it’s tough to let a sure thing get away.
I have a couple of questions for you:
(1) How good is the job you were offered? Does it have good opportunity to advance? Is it a job you could like, even if not as much as the other one?
(2) If you turn down Job B and don’t get Job A, would you be ok with your decision?
(3) If you take Job B, will you always regret what you didn’t get or just do your best to shine in the new job without regrets?
(4) Have you tried calling (not just e-mailing) Job A to more fully explain your situation and see if they can give you any more hope? (Remember…if the last interview is Oct. 27, they may still take a while to make a decision. And the fact that they won’t stop now shows that, even though you are the top choice as of the time you called, they have not decided it is you for sure. But of course…it might be.)
Honestly, without knowing every detail of your life, there’s no way I can offer you sound advice. Different people would choose differently under the same circumstances. I will tell you I once had this happen to me and I took the sure thing. It was NOT my dream job and never turned out to be. But the people I met and things I did wound up changing my life for the better – and I never for one moment looked back at what I could have had. Life is too short. 🙂
Fate is like that. The path taken and the path not taken. Just know there are good things possible from either path if we give our whole heart to whatever choice we make.
This one is for you to decide, Penguin. Please let us know what happens.
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Ann,
I just stumble upon this gem of a website! Thank you everyone for all their stories and insights. Really put things into prespective for me. Well, here is my situation. I applied for two jobs. Job B, for which I am sure I have recieved an offer with a deadline of Oct 20, is not my first choice. I e-mailed Job A (which I interviewed Oct 1) and got a response saying that I am their best candidate thus far but they still have more interview to conduct (last one on Oct 27th). I am wondering if the recuiter is being genuine about my possibility or whether she is just being nice and polite to keep me on file. I REALLY would love to get Job A. How do I response? they know my deadline to reply to Job B but still cannot give me any firm answers (which I understand). My gut feeling is to stick with Job A and hopes it pans out but I wanted to make sure that HR is not just being polite and there is a real possibility for me. Any advice or suggestions?
Thanks!
Penguin
Hi Irricca!
I’m excited for you. This does sound hopeful and you’re right to try to put a nice finishing touch to what appears to be an excellent interview process for you so far.
Believe me, they’ll call you if you get the job, so no need to ask this in an e-mail. They didn’t forget. 😉 But it would be fine to let them know that you have another offer and since by far this is the job you really want, you’re wondering if they could let you know what your status is. Be very polite in your tone and keep it short. Hopefully this will bring you the answer you’re looking for.
In the meantime, make sure you keep the other job offer alive, just in case! If the last interview candidate turns out to be a better match (and I hope not), then you can see this other job as a chance to start again – you never know where jobs like these can lead.
Good luck, Irricca. PLEASE let us know what happens.
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Ann!
Six months ago, due to a reduction in force, I was seperated from the company I worked for since college. Since that time, I have applied for a million jobs, but have landed only two interviews. The first interview led to a job offer for a position that I am immensly over-qualified for. The interviewer went so far as to tell me that he knew I was offering him more than he was offering me, but since I was currently unemployed what did I have to lose?
The second interview was polar opposite. I WANT THIS JOB!!! I interviewed on a Wednesday and the interview went extremely well, with the hiring manager going so far as to tell me that she felt I was the perfect candidate for the position. She did, however, inform me that she had more interviews scheduled and would probably have a decision by the end of the next week since it was imperative that they hire someone right away. I sent a thank you email the next morning and received a reply within an hour that I was the best candidate so far and that she only had one interview left to go. She thanked me for my professionalism and assured me that I would hear something either way.
Well, today is the end of the next week and I haven’t heard anything. I would like to send a follow-up email to basically ask “Did I get the job?” but have no clue where to begin. PLEASE HELP????
Hi Sophie!
I can only speak from my own experience when I’m part of the hiring process, but up until we make an offer, if we see a good candidate we actively pursue that possibility as well as the ones already in progress. This is not only important in case the new candidate is an even better match, but if the other one drops out for any reason, no smart recruiter leaves the company without a good alternative.
I know it doesn’t help you if you don’t even get a chance to fly in for the interview, but the fact that they were so interested in you says a lot about you. You can’t change the timing here, but, if you don’t get this job, keep your contacts warm and friendly from this point on! And if they do still want to meet with you…get your interview suit ready and shoes polished, they are still actively looking.
Rather than seeing this as a bad thing if it doesn’t work out, see it as a first step in a LONG interview process. 🙂 You made a really good impression and, if you handle it right, you may very well be the person they think about when the next opening comes up.
Good luck, Sophie. Please let us know how it turns out.
Ronnie Ann
Hi Ronnie Ann,
Well, the recruiter finally wrote back in response to the email I had sent her saying that I would be happy to fly myself for an in person interview. I have to say, I was quite surprised by what she wrote…
She told me that she would check with the rest of the team to see if they wanted me to fly in because they were in final rounds with another candidate and she wouldn’t want me to make all those arrangements if they were close to making an offer.
Why would she ask me in the first place then? Do you think she simply though that I wouldn’t offer to get myself there? I really wanted this job. I haven’t heard back from her since she was going to check with her team, but at this point I think it’s fair to say that I probably won’t even get the opportunity to interview for the job.
Oh…of course you’re right to be careful about your references, Heather…especially after that horrible experience! I shouldn’t have minimized it the way I did. Not everyone will pursue it the way I do. 🙂
Personally – and I suggest this for everyone – when I’m up for a job, I make a point of calling my references BEFORE listing them to make sure it’s ok and just in case there are any changes in phone numbers or potential out-of-town type glitches. (Of course, in your case, you couldn’t have known ahead of time about malfunctioning voice mail.)
I think waiting is a great choice. Best of luck!
Ronnie Ann
Thanks, Ronnie Ann, for the advice. I guess I’ll just wait this one out.
FWIW on the reference thing – I almost didn’t get a position because of a reference snafu. An organization I applied with to sponsor me for a fellowship almost DIDN’T go with me because they couldn’t get ahold of two of the three references on my list. One was out of the country, and the other was just having “getting back in touch with people” issues. The organization didn’t let me know about the problem until they’d been waiting for almost three weeks to hear back from them (and they were pretty annoyed about it)! Once I was able to intervene things went smoothly, and they decided to sponsor me for the fellowship, but it was a bit nerve-wracking waiting. I guess that experience is what has me all nervous about references.
I don’t want to drop any of them, because they all give absolutely glowing reviews of me (to the point that I’ve had interviewers comment on their responses), it’s just making sure that interviewers are actually able to reach them! 😉
Thanks again. 🙂
Hi Heather!
Yes…I think you may be approaching stalkerville. 😉
I like your determination in finding a way to get to your dream company. You’ve done a great job of keeping this going. Your main contact may be out of the office or unavailable to work on this right now for any number of reasons. Or, they may simply be mulling over their choices.
Hard as it is, you have to trust they remember you. If you’re the one they want, they’ll do whatever they need to do to make this happen – at their own pace, of course. And FYI…when I can’t contact a key reference for someone I’m very interested in, I call the candidate and ask if s/he knows a better way to contact the person. I don’t just give up on the candidate!
So…let them do their thing. If you want, maybe…only maybe… something like a snail mail card to your contact with a short note saying how much you’ve appreciated her help and that you’re still very interested in working for this company, especially in this job, and hope to hear some good news soon. ONLY if that feels right for you and the position.
Other than that, I can’t think of anything you can or should do right now that wouldn’t get your resume tossed into the potential stalker bin. (A call next week would be fine though.)
My fingers are crossed for you, Heather. Good luck! Please let us know what happens. Oh…and thanks for the nice words about my blog. 🙂
Ronnie Ann
Just wanted to comment that I’ve enjoyed reading this blog. It’s calmed me down a bit about my current job search, but I’d still like your input if you’re up to it.
Some background: I’ve applied for 4 different jobs with Company A (my DREAM company). I received phone interviews for three of these jobs, but didn’t move any further in the process. For the current position I’ve applied for, I had a phone interview on August 28, during which I was told that they would be completing second round interview in two weeks, and hoped to have someone start by late September, early October. I, of course, sent thank you letters immediately.
After not hearing from them for two weeks, I sent an email reiterating my interest in the position. Three days later, I rec’d a call asking me to come in for a second interview.
This second interview was last Monday (an in person panel interview w/ 5 interviewers), and I felt it went reasonably well (good answers to questions, lots of nodding in agreement, felt like I connected with interviewers, etc.). I was told that they would have a decision within a week, and would like someone to start ASAP. Again, I sent thank you letters to each interviewer independently (by email, because of their short search term).
Last Friday, I was speaking with the admin asst for my top reference, and she informed me that my reference had been having some issues with his voicemail, so to send all calls to her to ensure that they were promptly returned.
On Monday morning, I sent an email to my main contact at Company A, letting her know of the new reference number, and reiterated my interest in the position. No response.
So….Is there anything else I can / should do at this stage? Would calling to check up on the status of the hiring decision be to stalker-esque?
Thanks in advance for you thoughts.
Hahahahahaha! My pleasure, Sophie. 😉
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Best of luck! Fingers, legs, and eyes crossed.
Ronnie Ann
Thanks so much for responding so soon, Ronnie Ann! Could I havea little pixie dust?
Thanks!
Hi Sophie!
Sounds like you’ve done all the right things. Not all companies offer to fly you in for an out-of-town interview, especially for entry-level jobs.
Please don’t worry…the fact that you are an action person willing to make this happen reflects nicely on you. Rather than being stuck, sounds like things are flowing nicely. Even 72 hours (and maybe many more) is not long to wait in this case! 😉
Have a little more patience. She may at this very minute be trying to check schedules of all the people who would want to meet with you. (Before she only had to check her OWN schedule.)
When someone comes in from out-of-town, they try to line it all up so they can interview you the same day. And THAT takes time to coordinate. There may be holidays, vacation, important meetings, work deadlines, etc.
This still sounds very hopeful for